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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:12 pm Post subject: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Cool article discussing the Barndoor design on The Autopian
See here:
https://www.theautopian.com/i-saw-a-lovely-very-ea...to-matter/
Don’t miss the 2 pages of good theories & interesting comments at the end of the article. _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Lind Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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There is so much to love about buses. I love how the design went from a barndoor panel with no rear window or hatch to a sliding door 21 window inside 18 years. both share the same envelope and are recognizable as the same vehicle, but are so different, and there are so many models and uses in between. From a collector's standpoint, it never gets old. There is just so much there. _________________ .
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EverettB  Administrator

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Interesting comments and it seems like a lot of people were thinking the reason for the Barndoor decklid was either production simplicity at the time (Sort of makes sense) or they didn't think about having a rear upper hatch (Unlikely?) _________________ How to Post Photos
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Who.Me? Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:36 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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^^^^
Love the last comment...
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j.pickens Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Here's an archival Peterson's museum photo of another fine Barndoor bus.
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:16 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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That 52 barndoor deluxe is the infamous "Hornbecker" bus. Once owned by former mega collector Mike Hornbecker.
Sadly the history of that doesn't credit the late Washington state collector Steve Wood who originally found the bus in a Oklahoma dealership basement.
The barndoor pickup off-road truck was built in the early 1970's by Dave Beeson's Auto center in Bellflower Calif. A friend worked there and was ' tasked' with cutting the perfect front dogleg's off to clear the tires. |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:44 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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I would like to know more about Steve Wood and how found the bus.
It would also be cool to see some updates on the Baja Barndoor, j.pickens
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That 52 barndoor deluxe is the infamous "Hornbecker" bus. Once owned by former mega collector Mike Hornbecker.
Sadly the history of that doesn't credit the late Washington state collector Steve Wood who originally found the bus in a Oklahoma dealership basement.
The barndoor pickup off-road truck was built in the early 1970's by Dave Beeson's Auto center in Bellflower Calif. A friend worked there and was ' tasked' with cutting the perfect front dogleg's off to clear the tires. |
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Lind Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:20 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
I would like to know more about Steve Wood and how found the bus.
It would also be cool to see some updates on the Baja Barndoor, j.pickens
Zwitter wrote: |
That 52 barndoor deluxe is the infamous "Hornbecker" bus. Once owned by former mega collector Mike Hornbecker.
Sadly the history of that doesn't credit the late Washington state collector Steve Wood who originally found the bus in a Oklahoma dealership basement.
The barndoor pickup off-road truck was built in the early 1970's by Dave Beeson's Auto center in Bellflower Calif. A friend worked there and was ' tasked' with cutting the perfect front dogleg's off to clear the tires. |
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I believe that Steve bought it out of Hemmings in the mid '70s, and then drove it up to Seattle. _________________ .
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Who.Me? Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Lind wrote: |
LAGrunthaner wrote: |
I would like to know more about Steve Wood and how found the bus.
It would also be cool to see some updates on the Baja Barndoor, j.pickens
Zwitter wrote: |
That 52 barndoor deluxe is the infamous "Hornbecker" bus. Once owned by former mega collector Mike Hornbecker.
Sadly the history of that doesn't credit the late Washington state collector Steve Wood who originally found the bus in a Oklahoma dealership basement.
The barndoor pickup off-road truck was built in the early 1970's by Dave Beeson's Auto center in Bellflower Calif. A friend worked there and was ' tasked' with cutting the perfect front dogleg's off to clear the tires. |
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I believe that Steve bought it out of Hemmings in the mid '70s, and then drove it up to Seattle. |
I Googled it after the above posted last night and found this article that is an interview with Brendan (BUCIOBATISTI?) with more background.
https://blog.hifi.finance/introducing-our-first-real-world-asset-2395668f5aaf
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:02 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Cool article. I couldn't find any info here regarding the “The Milan” hotel shuttle Bus which Brendan mentions in the article until I found this nice interview with the owner Gene Langan driving it. The headline is stunning, and I love his great sense of humor in the end regarding how pissed off the drivers behind him are because the bus goes slow.
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Lind wrote: |
LAGrunthaner wrote: |
I would like to know more about Steve Wood and how found the bus.
It would also be cool to see some updates on the Baja Barndoor, j.pickens
Zwitter wrote: |
That 52 barndoor deluxe is the infamous "Hornbecker" bus. Once owned by former mega collector Mike Hornbecker.
Sadly the history of that doesn't credit the late Washington state collector Steve Wood who originally found the bus in a Oklahoma dealership basement.
The barndoor pickup off-road truck was built in the early 1970's by Dave Beeson's Auto center in Bellflower Calif. A friend worked there and was ' tasked' with cutting the perfect front dogleg's off to clear the tires. |
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I believe that Steve bought it out of Hemmings in the mid '70s, and then drove it up to Seattle. |
I Googled it after the above posted last night and found this article that is an interview with Brendan (BUCIOBATISTI?) with more background.
https://blog.hifi.finance/introducing-our-first-real-world-asset-2395668f5aaf
The 'inner circle' shit is a bit playground, but there's some interesting info nonetheless. |
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 7:02 am Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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You couldn’t find any info because we’re not part of the inner circle  |
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Douglas Denlinger Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 1402 Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: I Saw A Lovely Very Early VW Bus At The Petersen |
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Once upon a time, many years ago a 52 deluxe surfaced in the local Phoenix newspaper classifieds, when that was the source for selling a used vehicle.
The owner of that vehicle claimed as he drove his 52 to the Panama canal, he stopped in the very same service station where the Woods/ Horny bus was stored. Service guys went right past him, opened the engine compartment, walked right by him for a second time. A short time later they emerged, this time acknowledging him, claiming the bus they had was older!! _________________ Transporter Restorations
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