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56Cabrio Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 2078 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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panicman Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2673 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed |
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Huge thanks Cabrio!!!! I am going to order one of those- the price is just not too bad and one of my latches is pretty pitted and has the missing tension bushing.
I actually got around to throwing my pop outs in today! I took pics in case someone wanted yet another perspective on the process. |
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panicman Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2673 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed |
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The bug bit again this spring, and I wanted to knock 2 big things off the list- early original pop out windows and getting a 36hp engine back in my 60.
The 36hp has thrown me curve balls. The pop outs went in today and went pretty smoothly.
I did the driver side first, and watched both Valone's video, as well as JBugs beforehand. That went well, so I took time to take some pictures of the process on the passenger side.
First, the glass had to come out. My glass is nice, and the rubber and chrome are all in good shape from a lazy garage life. Instead of cutting, I used a 100# suction cup on the outside of the glass (which a helper hung onto), and I got in and did a leg press against the inside of the glass. You can see the seal start to give, and then boom, it's done. The helper just sets the glass down.
With glass out, you need to trim the headliner material back enough to mount the front hinge. It's not an actual hinge. It's just a metal bracket that has enough give to behave like a hinge. I held the new glass in place to gauge where the front mount would need some clean real estate, marked the top and bottom, and then started trimming. Touching my mohair headliner with a blade was a real treat. I think I'd have rather held it against a vein.
Once there's a place to do it, get help and mount that front hinge in place, pressing the new window into the opening to simulate it being closed and sealed all the way. I used a mallet and a small block of wood to get the new glass fully seated forward. Use a spring punch to dimple the steel, and then drill.
Once the holes are drilled, slide the threaded plate into place, and use a plastic pry tool or a screwdriver to get it into position. Run the short screws into the top, middle, and bottom threads. Leave the 2nd and 4th for later.
Look inside and outside for good fit.
Time for the latch. Multiple pucker factors here: wrong position and the window won't seal, or the latch won't lock. Or, you get careless drilling and you punch a drill bit through the outside skin of the car.
I got a helper to push the new glass in while I positioned the rear hinge and worked it through its motions. Once I felt like it was in the right spot, I marked one mounting hole, and then drilled.
I ran the bit all the way into the chuck, and then used a plastic spacer so that only a half inch or so of the drill bit could penetrate the body. It worked smoothly. I ran the first screw into the rear mount and verified that the latch was working as it should.
Then, I used the punch and drilled the remaining holes for the rear mount, leaving the mount in place as a guide. I then threaded all the screws in place and tightened.
With the window installed, time for the window bead and hinge cover.
The window bead goes on easily. I started at the bottom of the front hinge and worked my way around, seating it fully with medium mallet strikes, paying close attention at all corners.
The bead is cut a bit long, so you need to cut it to length as you finish routing it.
Now the hinge cover goes on, and it threads into the remaining hinge plate holes.
Done! 13 years of wishing I had done these earlier, and I have them now. |
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DAWGNME Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2012 Posts: 192
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation |
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Been waiting patiently for this! Had me scared for a min with your engine work, but here we are such a great write up and illustration once again keep up the Great work. Wished we lived in the same City LOL Keep Bugin! _________________ Having Fun While Learning With My Build/Refresh/Just get it Driving already S*YTTT!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=648483&highlight=
The Rich Can Buy What Ever They Want.
But!
They Have To Beg For What They Really Need.
Now 1963, 69 BUG, Blue 67, 74 FATTY |
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panicman Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2673 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation |
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I received the WW latch, and it does not match the original equipment.
It uses a toothed washer. No bushing.
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 28327 Location: Free State of Florida
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation |
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One of the hinges is missing 2 parts, what I would instinctively call a tension bushing, and the other is a white plastic spacer:
As you can see, the plastic spacer I do have is broken and could stand to be replaced. I scoured the classifieds for hinge parts and found none of these. |
I just posted the easy fix for the broken plastic compression washer:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=802873
Incidentally, all Beetles from '62 on already have the holes predrilled in the body. You just need to hold the closed mounting bracket in place and poke through the holes and through the headliner to find them. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
Heinz Nordhoff |
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panicman Samba Member

Joined: December 18, 2011 Posts: 2673 Location: Canby, OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation |
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Thanks baron.
The part I am missing is the metallic cone bushing. In its place, a previous possessor of the latch placed a flattened brass grommet, and it does a decent job of creating tension, but not just isn't as good. Still toying with casting my own bushing.
And my bug is a 1960, so I had to just grit my teeth and drill.... |
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado

Joined: June 16, 2006 Posts: 28327 Location: Free State of Florida
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:14 am Post subject: Re: Early pop out hinge part; help needed; installation |
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Yes, I saw that in your excellent tutorial. I did the same thing on my '56. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
Heinz Nordhoff |
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