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vamram 
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 Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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Progress report:
I eliminated the wiring for brake master cylinder switches as I’m going to run a pedal actuated brake switch.
Also eliminated the brake warning light, fan motor, and ign buzzer wiring.
J. |
I'm constantly amazed at your work, can only say WOW! Gotta ask about this, though. How will you monitor any possible master cylinder issue, short of loss of pedal? Like say a slow leak? I know the factory switches work for that.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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| vamram wrote: |
| DUNGBTL wrote: |
Progress report:
I eliminated the wiring for brake master cylinder switches as I’m going to run a pedal actuated brake switch.
Also eliminated the brake warning light, fan motor, and ign buzzer wiring.
J. |
I'm constantly amazed at your work, can only say WOW! Gotta ask about this, though. How will you monitor any possible master cylinder issue, short of loss of pedal? Like say a slow leak? I know the factory switches work for that. |
Thanks!
For the brake warning light delete I’ll be relying on my finely tuned foot, MC fluid level, and wet spots on the garage floor.  Seriously, I will have to more closely watch and feel for changes in the braking. As you might suspect, I am pretty anal about the maintenance of cars I build for ax/track so I’m ok with that. BTW, one of the reasons for leaking/loss of brake fluid are those MC brake switches…I feel good about eliminating two possible failure points.
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bruceo98
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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| Nah . A month of holidays, birthday and doctor appointments and work . And the next 6 weeks radiation everyday . Cars on hold for right now . I have started working on the door interior trim panels . |
I hope your treatment goes well…best wishes for a speedy recovery.
went today and had a scary moment, stopped breathing on the operating table.Of course I didn't know cause i was put under. all is good though. now I'll be starting radiation in May. Thanks for the wishes.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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More progress…
Continued making progress on the wiring install. Made a fuse/relay panel for the ignition, radiator fan, fuel pump, and USB charger (with room for a fourth relay for maybe heated seats?)
Used OEM mounts for the ‘rain collector’ and an aluminum strap to mount the panel…
I’m not an electrical expert, however I did come up with a wiring diagram for this ‘new to the car’ wiring for trouble shooting in the future if needed…
…installed the ignition switch…
…hooked up my test battery and tested all the circuits…no smoke was released and all circuits had continuity 
Still have to run the wires for the rear tail, brake, turn, reverse, and license lights…
…then deal with this…
…and this…
…etc., etc., etc…  
J.
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bruceo98
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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Moving along . Almost looks like you know what you’re doing. Lol. Now I know I need you to come here and figure mine out . You can use a paid vacation . I’ll pay for the trip and pay you to figure this mess out . Nicely done .
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H2OSB
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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J, I should never be surprised at the standard to which you're building your car, but damn, that looks impressive. Truely.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 7:31 am Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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| bruceo98 wrote: |
| Moving along . Almost looks like you know what you’re doing. Lol. Now I know I need you to come here and figure mine out . You can use a paid vacation . I’ll pay for the trip and pay you to figure this mess out . Nicely done . |
Looks can be deceiving!
Thanks…and I hope your treatment/recovery is going well.
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J, I should never be surprised at the standard to which you're building your car, but damn, that looks impressive. Truely.
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Thank you!
Striving to keep the wiring tidy however I still have the wiper motor, and all the instruments to install and wire so it’ll start to get crowded in there.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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…more progress:
Searched and found the wiper motor. It’s been a minute since I removed it and tossed it in a tote labeled “Interior”…huh?…must of made sense at the time.
Bench tested the 53 yr old relic…
…it works! Both speeds, smooth and silent…amazing! Cleaned it up and lubed all pivots.
To keep the wires tidy, I shortened the wiper and switch harness a good 12”.
That placed the ‘T4’ connector in the cavity (where the ash tray would of gone) behind the new relay panel…
I was pleased to see that the wiper motor plays nicely with my new relay panel.
I also added a couple M4 Rivnuts for p-clamps to further tame the wires…
Probably at the half way point on the wiring. Still have to run the chassis wires to the rear for the tail, brake, turn, reverse and license lights, make all the VW-to-Subaru wire connects, and all the battery wiring.
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H2OSB
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 9:53 am Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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I cannot say anything but outstanding. When I start reattaching wires, I'm gonna have a high standard to aspire to.
Strong work, my friend
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bruceo98
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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If i get mine looking 1/3 that good I'll be happy. Mine will look like a bowl of spaghetti compared to that. Nice job.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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^^
Thanks guys!
…continuing on…ran the tail, brake, turn, and license light wires to the back. The reverse light wires will come thru the rear bulk head w/the ECM wires.
A lot less wires now going through the ‘C’-pillar…easier to fish them too with the death-foam removed. Reused the OEM grommet here.
In the engine bay, I prepped the grounds by sanding clean and putting a smear of dielectric grease on them…
Most of my time is spent making the wire runs neat & tidy…
…the frame horns make excellent tape dispensers…
Tedious process to get the wire runs to go where you want them…heat gun and painter’s tape helps…LHS was the most annoying.
Once the final length is sussed out, the wires are fully wrapped…
…then final installed. Wiring ‘P’-clamps added to my block off plates keep the wires up & out of the way.
The wire grommets used are the “universal” grommets (German) from WW. I use a 1/8” hole punch in the center. I use Kapton tape for pre-wrap and Tesa tape for wrapping…
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Rome
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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The "Tesa" brand is very well known in Germany, the original company going back to 1890 with its adhesive bandage. Over the decades it also developed clear adhesive tape, so much so that it is generically referred to by name when asking for such tape- like "Scotch tape" here in the USA. The name Tesa was thought up in 1906 by the main secretary in the company's writing office, named Elsa Tesmer- who used 4 letters of her name.
https://www.tesa.com/de-de/ueber-uns/fakten-zahlen-menschen/geschichte
The electrical tape you're using has that nice fine surface grain, unlike the smooth and semi-gloss usual electrical tape found in HW stores. |
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H2OSB
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 9:40 am Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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The "Tesa" brand is very well known in Germany, the original company going back to 1890 with its adhesive bandage. Over the decades it also developed clear adhesive tape, so much so that it is generically referred to by name when asking for such tape- like "Scotch tape" here in the USA. The name Tesa was thought up in 1906 by the main secretary in the company's writing office, named Elsa Tesmer- who used 4 letters of her name.
https://www.tesa.com/de-de/ueber-uns/fakten-zahlen-menschen/geschichte
The electrical tape you're using has that nice fine surface grain, unlike the smooth and semi-gloss usual electrical tape found in HW stores. |
That's great history. My dad was a journeyman electrician and I didn't know that. Very cool. That said, of course J is using that tape. Sounds like it's the best.
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 10:34 am Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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| Rome wrote: |
The "Tesa" brand is very well known in Germany, the original company going back to 1890 with its adhesive bandage. Over the decades it also developed clear adhesive tape, so much so that it is generically referred to by name when asking for such tape- like "Scotch tape" here in the USA. The name Tesa was thought up in 1906 by the main secretary in the company's writing office, named Elsa Tesmer- who used 4 letters of her name.
https://www.tesa.com/de-de/ueber-uns/fakten-zahlen-menschen/geschichte
The electrical tape you're using has that nice fine surface grain, unlike the smooth and semi-gloss usual electrical tape found in HW stores. |
That's great history. My dad was a journeyman electrician and I didn't know that. Very cool. That said, of course J is using that tape. Sounds like it's the best.
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I actually didn’t know about Tesa tape until I saw one of my favorite YouTube channel builder (The Red Barn…914 LS & Ferrari360 engine swap builds) using it. I had always used 3M Super 88 tape, which is a high quality tape too. But the matte and pseudo fuzzy finish on this Tesa tape has the right aesthetics for this build. Reminds me of the electrical wiring covering on old 356’s.
It’s slightly thinner than the Super 88 and doesn’t stretch as much so the wrap isn’t as tight as I can get it w/the 3M product. It seems to stick to itself harder and after a few days, it’s very hard to unwrap (ask me how I know!  …what I show in my pics isn’t always the 1st and final wrap!  ).
I read that it was a high quality tape, but again, I started using it for the aesthetics. After reading Rome’s post I’m really glad I did! Definitely the right choice for this build!
Thanks for posting that history lesson Rome!
J.
On edit…I have to add that the cut & abrasion resistance of this Tesa tape, imo, is superior to the 3M tape. It is hard to cut w/o very sharp scissors. Perhaps this is why it’s sold with a razor! I will be using it on future builds. |
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DUNGBTL
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2025 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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More wiring hijinks. Wiring in the Subaru ECM.
Made a electrical panel of sorts for the ECM connections…
My office for several days…
Subie ECM integrated into the car…
Panel has a wiring distribution block on top and a battery ground distribution block on bottom. OBDII port, main relay and test connector are also on board.
I connected a “Code-Killer” to all the ECM wires which have no relevance…
…note: the Code-Killer also deals with the lack of a Neutral Position Switch by utilizing the brake light +12V signal hence allowing the engine to operate w/o anomalies. It gets heat shrink-wrapped…I tucked it up out of the way…
Making progress!
J. |
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bruceo98
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| Posted: Yesterday 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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Looking good.
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MACJELLY58
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| Posted: Yesterday 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: The DUNGBTL Build |
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All I can say is, "Holy Crap!!"
Thankfully with your explanations, I can almost follow along and pick up a few gems along the way.
This Buggy is going to be crazy. |
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