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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 5:10 am    Post subject: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Any tricks to disconnecting the right rear brake hose at the cross-transmission and rear wheel cylinder connections? Mine are stuck solid.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Flare nut wrench and a propane torch.

If the lines are broken, a socket on an impact driver will get the nuts off.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Flare end wrench on both the hose and line. First try tightening the connection. Then try breaking it free. If you can get the wrenches lined up to “squeeze” them together, it makes it way easier!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

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First try tightening the connection. Then try breaking it free.


Definitely! Tightening ever so slightly will crush the rust from a plating that takes up too much room in the threads that they are a press fit, into a rust dust that allows threads to be undone. When you get the nut moving, do work it back and forth often. If you just go all the way loosening it up the rust in the threads can gall up and weld together the threads....

Check your brake line that runs on the left side of the pan hump, where it sits in damp from your shoes. If that looks really nasty rusty it is a good time to upgrade to rust proof brake lines. Up to about 1,500 PSI will happen in a brake system, so a pitted up brake line can blow all too easily.

Either which way, do apply a little anti-seize to the brake line nuts and work each nut back from the end of the line to apply more anti-seize on the brake line so it ends up between the nut and brake line. Just wipe off the tip of the brake line if need be, where it seals up to keep anti-seize out of the hydraulics. That will keep out water and corrosion from those areas, making it so much easier in the future to take back apart.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

If the lines are really stuck, they are probably very old, and probably should all be replaced for safety.

If you decide to replace, then use whatever hack method like big vice grips to get the fittings apart.

Then smile after you get the new lines and hoses in knowing those can last another 50 years. The anti seize is a good idea too.

Just some more general advice for you.... Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Kroil. The correct answer is Kroil. The fitting will magically loosen itself while you stand there dumbfounded with the wrench in your hand. I'm only slightly exaggerating. Haha

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

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Kroil. The correct answer is Kroil. The fitting will magically loosen itself while you stand there dumbfounded with the wrench in your hand. I'm only slightly exaggerating. Haha

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Yep that rust tight is some real deal stuff. It is so good you will never find it on the store shelves. Rusty connections are not fun. Follow some of the methods posted.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2025 7:58 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Since Brake fluid exposed to air become corrosive be sure that upon reassembly that the threads are dry of fluid AND use a bit of brake system compatible brake grease on the threads. Only use brake system compatible grease, NEVER use regular greases, as if there is contamination of this grease into the brake system, even in small amounts, the rubber brake bits in the cylinders may degrade, with loss of braking. I also use the brake grease ont he threads on the cylinders, the bleeder screws, and coat the cylinder bores with it too. This will go a long ways to prevent corrosion, make bleeder screws easy to open, prevent rusting of the non wetted sections of the bores,
VW in the service manuals calls this Brake Paste in some editions.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2025 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

A few days before I plan on doing work I spray the rusted connections with pb blaster, and repeat every day. Usually works well, tighten loosen, tighten loosen and connections come loose. If they don't, then I break out the Kroil, and let the troublesome joint soak as I keep doing other parts of the task, and come back to the Kroil spots.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2025 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Couldn't fit my impact driver in the space. Got some Kroil coming today. I rember using it ages ago. Will try the tighten-loose method after Kroiling (is that a word?)
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2025 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Can't get brake hose loose. Reply with quote

Try Kroil first as I suggested above, but here are some other suggestions:

Will the other two connections come loose from the splitter block? You can cut off the offending line, disconnect the other two lines, and remove the splitter block so you can put it in the vise and use an impact.

You can then cut the line again near the wheel cylinder, remove the drum, and remove the wheel cylinder with the short line still attached. Having access on the bench and/or vise will give you more options.

Worst case scenario, you'd replace the block and the wheel cylinder, and install a new cross over line to the wheel.

As someone else mentioned, it might be time to just replace all the brake lines & hoses. In that case, just cut whatever you have to.
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