raygreenwood
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 Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 11:39 am Post subject: Re: oil 5 years |
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If this producer of this video wanted to produce a worthwhile video, he would have chosen to use a two eleven year old oils, and two 6 year old oils of the same brand and then two newly manufactured oils again of the same brand. For all we know the SE and SF oils he tested are acting 100% factory normal and have little deterioration with time, and all he is proving is that SE and SF oils were junk compared to today's oil. I mentioned above that the circa 1990 rebuilt 1800 that was in my bus and lasted 250K miles, it didn't die from a lubrication problem but due to cracks in one of the original heads that had either 370 or 420K miles on them total since new. This engine would have always run an SG oil or newer, and had unmeasureable taper to the cylinders.
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Actually probably not (as far as oils acting normal).
Lake speed and others he frequently introduces in his videos have been working in the labs that produce and test these oils for decades. People he works with older than he is have been working there even longer.
A lot of the people he introduces across his videos actually developed some of the testing and equipment that is used for all oil testing.
I would be willing to bet they have the original analysis and testing on file for these older oils...
But....your test idea is an excellent one. Why don't you log onto his site or just say this in the comment section that video and suggest this test regime.
He also has access to the laboratory test bed engines that are used for performance testing oil live. He has had numerous videos along those lines and regularly takes suggestions from the audience about what tests to run and what videos to make to answer questions or dispell myths about oil.
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SGKent 
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: oil 5 years |
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Mike - make arrangements with the labs and run tests to share with the world. Anyone who watches Lake's first video, will discover that he said he thought the 10 year old gear oil would be fine. But when he opened the bottle, he was shocked to see that it was worse than the older engine oil. I see that as he entered into this with a completely open mind. And for what it is worth, his formal education is in lubricants, his informal education is building the winning race cars with his dad, and he gets the laboratory oil analysis tests back before making final conclusions. As to the foaming test, he went to the lab that builds oil formulas for companies like Shell, Chevron, Mobil etc.. He has also done some of his productions in the labs that Valvoline uses to formulate their oils. All the people in that industry know him. He is also a member of the US Porsche club and gives lectures on oils at some of their events. So yes, by all means, run some tests, and share it with all of us. You are still welcome to my old oil and lubricants if you pay shipping. I don't know if there is a surcharge for liquids like that when shipping. I had planned to take them to HHW tomorrow.
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