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poundman
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 Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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Reviving this thread because I came across this samba classified. Looks like someone is making and selling a mount strong enough for T4 engine now. Anyone using one of these can comment?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2712920
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Kudagra
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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Yeah thats Brian E at Type E motorsports in South Dakota. I was going to copy it and make one on a plasma table but I decided that was a jerk move and I just bought one from him. Its heavy duty and I wont even blink at putting a full dress vanagon engine on it. Its built with plenty of room to install the flywheel (one issue I had with my 4arm yoke). Its a superb piece and I couldnt be happier with it.
BTW...look at his other ads...all kinds of goodies that I feel compelled to purchase.
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SGKent 
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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It looks like there is even room to add the clutch while it is off. Only caveat I would give is that make sure the engine stand it is used in will support the weight because it is longer than the other stands. I have a 4 yoke made 10 - 15 years ago by the Porsche guy who passed away a while back, and fully dressed a T4 causes my hefty engine stand to flex. Adding length would make it worse. But, that looks like a really nice product.
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poundman
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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| olafwagner wrote: |
I purchased the 'Vevor' engine stand from Amazon. I got the 1300 lbs version, not because of its carrying capacity, but rather because this one specifically has the 'U-shaped' footprint, which allows me to put something directly underneath to catch oil/dirt etc.
This stand, however, doesn't fit well onto the VW engine as is. So I 3D printed some spacer tabs that fit perfectly onto the case, and over the protruding lip as well. (I printed these with basic PLA, but with 100% infill). (Yes, I can already feel many people on this forum's eyes rolling, but seriously under compression these parts are more than strong enough).
The next problem was that the holes in the black arms are much bigger than M10 bolts, so I 3D printed some sleeves to fill this space. (also in basic PLA with 100% infill).
The final piece was that with the original hole locations, the mounting arms were spread too far out, so I drilled a second set of holes more 'inward' on the mounting arms.
I purchased two M10x120mm bolts for the two upper holes, and use the existing M10 studs for the two lower holes, and mounted the engine. Everything is very sturdy.
Here are the pics...
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Olaf has sent me the files to try.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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I’m not digging that idea.
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Kudagra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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| SGKent wrote: |
| It looks like there is even room to add the clutch while it is off. Only caveat I would give is that make sure the engine stand it is used in will support the weight because it is longer than the other stands. I have a 4 yoke made 10 - 15 years ago by the Porsche guy who passed away a while back, and fully dressed a T4 causes my hefty engine stand to flex. Adding length would make it worse. But, that looks like a really nice product. |
Oh yes plenty of room for the flywheel and clutch to be installed easily.
I have a 2000lb engine stand Ive had a 327AMC engine on. Those all forged engines are like 700lbs+ full dress. I dont think any VW engine (outside of a v10TDI) is going to bother it. I really do recommend it.
I have a 10ish year old 4 arm yoke that has had a few complete engines on it and it never even seemed stressed...but dealing with the clutch and flywheel is not a lot of fun.
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Kudagra
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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| aeromech wrote: |
| I’m not digging that idea. |
I mean..it works.
I get using what you have and making things work...
But, through the hard way, Ive found you will be miles ahead using the right tool for the job.
Its been some expensive lessons.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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How so you build a short block when the case is split? I wouldn't trust 2 bolts with minimal flange to hold it and not crack the engine flange.
A 2 arm yoke works well and can hold a fully dressed engine. If you are unsure, get a 3 arm.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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Glenn,
I’ve got the same deep sump as you. I’ve considered adding a drain plug. What do you think?
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SGKent
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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my berg had a drain but it was cast into one of the ends. The question is do you use it enough in summer to need an oil change? I lived 90 miles north of you when I had the 1971 for all those years, and with the deep sump, the oil in winter never heated up so I had to take it off in winter and put on in late spring.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Question: What to look for when buying a used engine stand |
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I don’t use it enough but do try to change the oil every year. I might be thinking of selling it but not sure
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