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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42601 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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The optimal is 3/4". I don't know if 1/4" would make all that much difference. As a clutch wears free play goes away. Make sure the 4 engine to trans bolts feel tight and none are way loose. You've probably already done that. . _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin |
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TomWesty Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2007 Posts: 3514 Location: Wyoming,USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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SGKent wrote: |
The optimal is 3/4". I don't know if 1/4" would make all that much difference. As a clutch wears free play goes away. Make sure the 4 engine to trans bolts feel tight and none are way loose. You've probably already done that. . |
SGKent for the win. I had set my free play from memory and my memory is crap! Set it to Bentley specs for Early bus which is a bit less than post ‘73 bus and the clutch works properly. Thanks for your memory jogger Steve! It’s now about 3/4”. _________________ If you haven't bled on them, you haven't worked on them.
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Wildthings Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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Maybe you have the wrong lever on one end of the cable or the other, could also be slop where the rear lever fits onto the release shaft (the levers are know to split). The welds on the release forks could be failing as well. The system shouldn't be so sensitive that a 1/4" from spec keeps the clutch from fully releasing. |
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aeromech Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 17653 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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Bushings and coupler would cause your gear shifter to have a lot of slop. The forward most bushing fails quite commonly. Get a helper to move your shifter around while you watch the coupler. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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jtauxe  Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5975 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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I had an interesting (and classic) clutch cable failure this week. I noticed that the clutch was not engaging well, and that if I cranked down on the wing nut a bit, it got better. I did that a couple of times before I caught on that the cable was stretching and that I had best check it out at the soonest opportunity. That opportunity came only after I could no longer engage the clutch while at a red light, and I had to do the "start in 1st gear with the starter and then smart shift all the way home", fortunately not hitting another cause to fully stop.
I did make it home, and pulled out the cable to find this:
Down to 5 strands! _________________ John
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Wildthings Samba Member

Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52373
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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jtauxe wrote: |
I had an interesting (and classic) clutch cable failure this week. I noticed that the clutch was not engaging well, and that if I cranked down on the wing nut a bit, it got better. I did that a couple of times before I caught on that the cable was stretching and that I had best check it out at the soonest opportunity. That opportunity came only after I could no longer engage the clutch while at a red light, and I had to do the "start in 1st gear with the starter and then smart shift all the way home", fortunately not hitting another cause to fully stop.
I did make it home, and pulled out the cable to find this:
Down to 5 strands! |
Yeap, that is how it happens. The wires begin to break causing the cable to lengthen and making is hard to get into gear. Adjusting the nut just buys you as very short about of time. When installing the new cable, it helps if you apply grease to the area of the crimp to try and hold corrosion at bay. I have thought about applying several layers of heat shrink to the crimp area to both hold grease and to lessen any bending that is happening there. |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42601 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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three possible causes - bad transmission / engine ground, fatigue, or the unhappy clevis pin issue.
Bad ground causes the cable to be used as ground and it causes it to heat up and stretch - break strands
Fatigue speaks for itself
unhappy clevis pin - see below
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The first thing check to be sure the clevis is on right upfront. It can be upside down. Here is a happy face I believe that Jon, HazetGuy drew to assist in getting it right. Make sure the cable is not binding.
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jtauxe  Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5975 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Stretching clutch cable. |
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Yes, the damage is entirely consistent with having put on the rotating draw bar backwards, but it actually was on correctly. So ... dunno. _________________ John
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