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			  | Patina and drive it |  | 57% | [ 16 ] |  
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 9:42 pm    Post subject: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Came across a new project. 
 Only months after finishing a three year restoration on a 56 ragtop, here's my new 55 ragtop.
 
 I'm still thinking about what my plan is going to be. I'm easily a year of work ahead of where the 56 was metal work wise... So there's that. Or perhaps I just get it road worthy and drive it as is ... I'll sleep on it.
 
 The last four photos are of the 56 I just finished restoring.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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		| kintail Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Depends on your assessment of how much rust has affected the structural integrity of the floorpan/heater channel IMO. Looks like a lot with the sunroof gone. Great find!! 
 And excellent work on the '56!!
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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	  | kintail wrote: |  
	  | Depends on your assessment of how much rust has affected the structural integrity of the floorpan/heater channel IMO. Looks like a lot with the sunroof gone. Great find!! 
 And excellent work on the '56!!
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 Thank you!
 
 Heater channels don't need to be replaced. Floors should be replaced but I think I can get away with just a patch on the right rear side.
 
 I'll jack up the body slightly to clean up, replace the seal and get some por15 in there.
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		| finster Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| get it on the road and enjoy the option of what to drive - shiny or patina  _________________
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				|  Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Roll it.  Looks awesome as is.  Won’t need to worry about door dings or scratches. _________________
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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	  | type4split wrote: |  
	  | Roll it.  Looks awesome as is.  Won’t need to worry about door dings or scratches. |  
 This is a very convincing argument...
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		| Blue Baron VW Aficionado
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| You already know exactly what's required to restore one, so it comes down to what you want to do. A strato silver '55 sunroof would be mighty pretty restored! _________________
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		| pondoras box Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2025 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| It’s a beautiful car that deserves to be restored. You obviously know what you’re doing. You have one to drive already so you won’t be stressed out about that. Plus you get best of both worlds, you get to drive a beautifully restored car while still having one in the garage to spin wrenches on. _________________
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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 Body is off the pan. Today I took the front axle and transmission out and scrubbed the pan w degreaser. If it ever stops raining here I'll apply phosphoric acid and then por15 the whole thing ... After I replace the rear pan halves and weld up a few small holes on the driver's front.
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		| EverettB  Administrator
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| First, I'm enjoying this thread so thanks for doing it. 
 Second, this is a cool photo:
 
 
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		| kintail Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Just to clarify I voted patina........but the other half of me says '55 sunroofs are pretty rare and restoration is the way to go! Rust never sleeps...... _________________
 Scott
 
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Thanks Everett ... That means a lot coming from you. 
 Will keep plugging along and add photos whenever I make some sort of significant progress.
 
 This week I'll be replacing the rear pan quarters on both sides, then hitting the frame and floors with Eastwood encapsulator.
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| One thing I've learned from this hobby over the last 25 years is that sometimes you just need to see a small victory... In this case it meant painting the shifter and base L75 beige after some rust treatment. Although I think the base gets painted black ... 
 I also split the case on the 36hp to see what was inside ...
 
 
 
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Finished up work on the floors today. Pretty happy with how they came out. 
 
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| I removed the apron, measured up and cut out the right rear quarter. I'm pretty happy with how curving the bottom lip on it came out. I made it match the factory curves, being tighter in the rear and a wider gap as it goes forward. 
 I also painted two wheels ....sometimes you just gotta see color, hah!
 
 Strato silver and pearl white (which I hope is the correct inner color ... It's certainly different from silver white).
 
 
 
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| As my summer break comes to an end, I finished up the chassis on the 55. 
 All that's left to do is fill and bleed the brakes and clear out one of the heater cable tubes which feels like it has cement in it.
 
 Overall, I'm happy with it.
 
 Next up is to build the engine, mount it and see if it runs. It's a case from 36hp dated in 57.
 
 The body is being media blasted this week. Will post photos of it after it's done.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				| Yep! I'd definitely fully restore the rarer and cool '55 Sunroof.  So unique, and more valuable when done right!  Perhaps I'm biased a bit, as I luckily found a very nice condition unrestored original June of '55 Sunroof almost 30 years ago and it's the queen of my collection.  I'm doing a resto on a '57 Kabriolett now. 
 Both your Ovals would be nice to have restored, but the '55 three-fold sunroof definitely has my vote!
 
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		| gzaharatos67 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: GZs 55 Project |   |  
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	  | I'm doing a resto on a '57 Kabriolett now. 
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