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campdog2 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2025 Posts: 5 Location: Hobe Sound Fl
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:22 pm Post subject: 1969 starting issuses |
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I have a 1969 VW dune Buggy. Engine only has about 7000 miles on it. I recently have been having problems starting it after I drive awhile. When it's cold it starts right up but after I stop somewhere and try to restart, it is very slow to restart. From trying to turn it over several times the battery goes dead. Battery is only about a year old. Is it a starter issue or is the generator not charging the battery fully? Any help would be appreciated!
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jinx758 Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2014 Posts: 1013 Location: half a bubble from plumb
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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Howdy ... and welcome
Try checking :
*choke adjustment
*too much timing
*dwell angle out of spec
*fuel tank venting
*vapor lock
*vacuum leak
*fuel delivery
*weak spark
Some here claim that is normal for ACVWs, it even mentions it in the owner's manuals. I have never experienced that in any of the numerous bugs I've owned - always starts right up & drive away immediately.
Maybe post what engine, carburetor, distributor, & etc you have.
Pics could help also, we like pics.
Verify charging system is working & should clean grounds just for insurance.
Do a load test on battery to rule out a dead cell. If it poops out after a few cranks that's not good. Check electrolyte level, unless sealed unit.
Fully charge battery, let rest 6hrs.
(don't be fooled by "surface charge")
Record voltage
Record voltage while cranking
Record voltage after cranking
Loss should be no more than 12%
Trying to help, good luck ... stay safe
jinx
PS :
Not quite sure of your mechanical/troubleshooting abilities. _________________ " It's not valuable unless you learn something from an experience. " Henry Ford
It's not unlike the same difference ...
My Craigslist rescued 100 footer :
1971 Standard Bug
1776cc dual port
034 distributor
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johnnyvw164 Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2020 Posts: 619 Location: South of Raleigh
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 6:14 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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Are you saying the starter turns the motor slowly, or it takes a lot of cranking for the motor to start running? |
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campdog2 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2025 Posts: 5 Location: Hobe Sound Fl
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:25 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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Yes, the second start is slow. |
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campdog2 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:26 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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I also replaced the carburetor. After all this began. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1388 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 9:15 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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As jinx suggested, a systematic troubleshooting process is needed. Replacing parts without a confirmed reason to do so can get expensive and actually complicate the problem given the generally poor quality of many aftermarket parts and assemblies sold today. Posting several photos of the engine is a big help. It allows us spot things that are amiss that we otherwise wouldn't be able to point out.
Check out Speedy Jim's page on why an engine won't start. Even though you can sort of get yours running, the page is a great review of basic things to check.
https://speedyjim.net/htm/eng_strt.htm _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
"Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." Wernher von Braun
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campdog2 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:23 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 32984 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 7:57 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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campdog2 wrote: |
I recently have been having problems starting it after I drive awhile. When it's cold it starts right up but after I stop somewhere and try to restart, it is very slow to restart. From trying to turn it over several times the battery goes dead. Battery is only about a year old. Is it a starter issue or is the generator not charging the battery fully? Any help would be appreciated!
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Jodi - you need to supply more information.
Since you say it starts OK when cold, you need to tell us whether the difficult-to-start involves CRANKING slower and then fails to crank, or if the cranking is normal speed and then stops.
You NEED to get the battery tested UNDER LOAD, typically free. Because I suspect the battery/battery connections causing the starter to spin too slowly and then stop working. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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campdog2 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:11 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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It cranks slower when hot. I haven't had time for a load test. |
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Cusser Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:48 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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campdog2 wrote: |
It cranks slower when hot. I haven't had time for a load test. |
Battery, battery connectors, grounding connection, or even possibly bad starter (or even starter bushing). Do you know how old the battery is???
Place to start is cleaning battery and wiring connections to 100% clean and shiny, and getting a battery load test....because those are no cost ! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Cusser Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:48 am Post subject: Re: 1969 starting issuses |
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campdog2 wrote: |
It cranks slower when hot. I haven't had time for a load test. |
Battery, battery connectors, grounding connection, or even possibly bad starter (or even starter bushing). Do you know how old the battery is???
Place to start is cleaning battery and wiring connections to 100% clean and shiny, and getting a battery load test....because those are no cost ! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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