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ibulib Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:37 pm Post subject: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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I’m hoping the Vanagon family can help.
I own 1986 Vanagon Westfalia with factory 2.1L and 112,000 original miles. In preparation for 2025 summer adventures, I had an experienced Vanagon repair shop replace original fuel tank in May 2025. Parts were sourced from GoWesty which included fuel tank, re-seal kit & fuel sending unit. The moment after starting my Vanagon at repair shop, cavitation noise was immediate. It was late and I hoped noise was due to low fuel or maybe contaminants from new fuel tank getting caught in fuel pump. I have been driving with cavitation noise since tank replacement. Due to the noise, I did not drive Vanagon far. Over the weekend, I decided to replace fuel pump and filter to fix cavitation noise. Unfortunately, cavitation noise is still present and have no idea what to do next.
Here is a timeline:
08/24 - replaced failed factory fuel pump with Hella fuel pump and fuel filter. I also replaced rubber fuel line from gas tank to black hard line and included new fuel pump rubber bushings. Zero fuel pump noise.
05/25 - replaced factory fuel tank with re-seal kit and fuel level sending unit. Cavitation noise after tank replacement was immediate.
11/25 - replaced Hella fuel pump with Bosch fuel pump and fuel filter. Cavitation noise is still present.
I’m open to any suggestions as this noise is driving me crazy. Please know I searched Samba for troubleshooting this issue and spent hours reviewing threads =( |
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Chootrain470 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| I've had multiple fuel pumps and they all make some noise. I just carry a spare just in case, but I haven't had one go bad yet. How loud is it? I usually can hear it when idling, but road noise drowns it out. |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8824 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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Is the filter fore or aft of the fuel pump?
Plastic cube or metal canister?
I also wonder if for some reason there’s a clog between tank and filter or pump, though seems unlikely…
Have you removed the fuel line from the rear of the pump, run a line to an empty gallon jug, and watched the flow with just a moment of running the starter?
Even though not very likely, it’d be worth swabbing the inlet screen on the front of the pump.
It’d also be worth dumping a jug or two of HEET in the red container in case there’s any water in there. It happens even with fresh fuel and a new tank. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
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ibulib Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| E1 wrote: |
Is the filter fore or aft of the fuel pump?
Plastic cube or metal canister?
I also wonder if for some reason there’s a clog between tank and filter or pump, though seems unlikely…
Have you removed the fuel line from the rear of the pump, run a line to an empty gallon jug, and watched the flow with just a moment of running the starter? |
Fuel filter is after fuel pump and its metal. Nothing is in front of fuel pump to fuel tank. I have not pulled the line from back side of pump to see flow rate. I have gone through at least 3 full tanks of gas. |
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ibulib Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| Chootrain470 wrote: |
| I've had multiple fuel pumps and they all make some noise. I just carry a spare just in case, but I haven't had one go bad yet. How loud is it? I usually can hear it when idling, but road noise drowns it out. |
The cavitation noise is loud enough to hear over GoWesty exhaust. |
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 19121 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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Get a Jerry can, some fuel, and some hose the same diameter of the pump inlet. Set the jug in the side door and run the van off the jug. Noise gone? Issue with the tank. Noise present it’s not the tank. Short of a rig, you could try pressurizing the tank through the filler with compressed air, blow gun, and a rag. Doesn’t take much. Also see if the pump quiets with the filler cap off. Could be a vent issue.
I’ve not done this, but some owners have added a resistor to the pump power to lower the voltage and slow the pump. |
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whatwrenchwhere Samba Member

Joined: July 04, 2024 Posts: 92 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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I recently changed out some fuel line and the fuel filter, and drained the tank for this. And right after that I heard the humming from fuel pump for first time ever. I had put about 1.5 gallon of 87 octane gas in there when done.
I was reading another post, and they said ethanol free gas fixed there issue, something due to the weight/viscosity/composition of it. I usually run ethanol free, and never heard fuel pump humming before. Anyway, filled up with ethanol free, and no more humming.YMMV. _________________ '85 Westfalia, 1.9L 2wd Manual |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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I 2nd Mark Wards post. At the very least , with no tools needed, run the Vanagon with the gas cap off to rule out a venting issue as your 1st step.
The line from the Charcoal Canister to the tank for breathing/venting is not large at all in diameter.
Also make sure the side to side cross over vent hose is routed OVER your shifter rod ( manual) or shift cable( automatic). If it was routed UNDER these, it will need to be corrected. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
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sanchius  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| ibulib wrote: |
| The cavitation noise is loud enough to hear over GoWesty exhaust. |
Your instincts are correct, this isn't right. You can check your baseline fuel flow without running the engine by removing the downstream end of the outlet hose coming out of the fuel tank, just before the fuel pump or fuel filter.
Since you are working with open fuel, exercise all needed cautions.
The second picture in the link below shows the pre-pump fuel flow I had there due to a presumed plugged in-tank screen that resulted in loud cavitation noise from the fuel pump.
Once I cleared the blockage with a big blast of air, I had steady, high-volume, gravity-driven pre-pump flow there and a quiet fuel pump once I reconnected the fuel line.
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| sanchius wrote: |
| ibulib wrote: |
| The cavitation noise is loud enough to hear over GoWesty exhaust. |
Your instincts are correct, this isn't right. You can check your baseline fuel flow without running the engine by removing the downstream end of the outlet hose coming out of the fuel tank, just before the fuel pump or fuel filter.
Since you are working with open fuel, exercise all needed cautions.
The second picture in the link below shows the pre-pump fuel flow I had there due to a presumed plugged in-tank screen that resulted in loud cavitation noise from the fuel pump.
Once I cleared the blockage with a big blast of air, I had steady, high-volume, gravity-driven pre-pump flow there and a quiet fuel pump once I reconnected the fuel line.
Edit: I had a 79 Beetle under warranty many years ago. It would drive fine and quit. Would get towed in and start and run. I narrowed it down to the fuel supply eventually. Replaced the tank and fixed the problem. Got permission to cut open the original tank and found a ball of solder. The suction and movement would let it roll up and restrict the flow starving the engine. Engine off and a little movement and ball would roll away. That’s why I recommended trying to eliminate the actual new tank as the problem. It very well could be defective.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9788512#9788512 |
Where did the plug go? If it’s still in the tank, if it got there once it could get there again.
The last GW tank I installed had a note that the tank needed to be flushed before install. With this tank, I saw no reason to do that and even contacted them. The company that stamps them likely coats with a temporary rust preventative like cosmolene that might need to be removed so it doesn’t gum up the works. There’s really not a complete way to flush a 2wd tank. The syncro being plastic and having an opening you can clean the tank thoroughly is a better long term design. |
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sanchius  Samba Member

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SoquelDude Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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Hi!
There's been talk of adding a resistor to the ground on the fuel pump to effectively slow the pump down to match the fuel flow. That trick seems to work and is described in may threads on Samba, such as this one:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
Good luck! _________________ '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8824 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| ibulib wrote: |
| I have not pulled the line from back side of pump to see flow rate. |
There’s no way (that at least I know of) to move forward without checking that fuel flow is aggressive — regardless of cause.
My limited understanding of cavitation is two-fold:
1). Excessively hot fuel evaporating and introducing air as it does — such as produces vapor lock — from a fuel line too close to a heat source, for one, overall hotter than normal engine temps, somewhat related to…
2). Air in the pump, from whatever other source — like too little an amount of fuel dribbling from the tank so the pump sucks air instead, a dirty pump ground not allowing full operation and thus minimizing fuel flow, obviously a bad pump (unlikely since you’ve tried three), clogged pump inlet screen, bad or watered fuel in general (were all your fills from the same station?), and several other possible causes beyond my wheelhouse.
3). Check flow from the tank vs. a gas can as others above wisely eluded to (I’ve personally never had to try that, but presume it comes out in a mild but continuous stream?), then check the flow out of the pump — and compare.
Video helps big time in reviewing the two tests yourself. It’s hard if not ineffective to memorize things like this, and substantiate the exact flow contrast between “from tank” and “from pump” after the fact.
If the flow after the pump isn’t jetting out a lot more compared to from the tank, then the issue is visibly and clearly related to the pump itself — or its power source, including the ground.
I also question if the evap containers in each wheelwell are sealed. If not, water gets in and can foul injectors. With that, I’d *suspect* excess air could enter the fuel tank, but that may be “reverse psychology” being that the evaps are designed to do almost the opposite — have a place for air from a full tank to escape to, and sometimes the fuel itself if full up and expanding from heat, or jeeping and jostling, or whatever.
I’ve never tested correct fuel pump voltage (12 volts?), but others have and perhaps can comment — and on my other stated uncertainties. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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Actually the cavitation is physics. The restriction causes vacuum to go up in the inlet to the point that the fuel vaporizes sort of like an ac vacuum pump. The fuel is boiling essentially. Those bubbles enter the inlet causing the noise.
It’s interesting the non alcohol fuel solved the noise. Assuming different vapor points. |
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SoquelDude Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| MarkWard wrote: |
Actually the cavitation is physics. The restriction causes vacuum to go up in the inlet to the point that the fuel vaporizes sort of like an ac vacuum pump. The fuel is boiling essentially. Those bubbles enter the inlet causing the noise.
It’s interesting the non alcohol fuel solved the noise. Assuming different vapor points. |
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I look at it like a kid sucking the last bit of his/her cherry coke through a straw.
I think all of us have experienced cavitation from the fuel pump, but how many of us have actually had a pump blow out due to cavitation? I wonder if this isn't as big a deal compared to other things in the life of a Vanagon. _________________ '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8824 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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It’s all in the Ear of the Beholder.
Related addendum… whenever I’ve heard serious pump noise — for sure a dozen times or more over the years — the pump has ALWAYS been hot.
When running normally, it’s been barely above air temperature. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
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SoquelDude Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| E1 wrote: |
| Related addendum… whenever I’ve heard serious pump noise — for sure a dozen times or more over the years — the pump has ALWAYS been hot. |
I hear cavitation mostly at idle after a long drive, so heat is surely a factor. But my bet is that heat in all components (e.g., pump, fuel lines, etc.) is the root of all evil. I guess you can insulate the supply/return lines or re-route them to a better location to maximize air flow and get them away from heat sources. But, let's face it, considering where the pump is located, there's not much you can do to keep it cool.
On a side note, I mentioned the inline resistor trick to slow the pump down. I know a lot of folks have tried that, I also considered doing it before I changed the pump out. But I'm not convinced that adding a resistor to slow the pump won't lead to other problems, such as burning out the pump over time (perhaps faster than just letting it cavitate). _________________ '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) |
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| Cavitation can destroy a water pump. I rebuilt lift station pumps as a side business many moons ago. These are impeller type pumps. The Vanagon pump is a roller design I believe. It does depend on fuel to cool and lubricate the pump, so probably not good for them. |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8824 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| SoquelDude wrote: |
| But, let's face it, considering where the pump is located, there's not much you can do to keep it cool. |
Restating that when working properly, the fuel pump is barely above outside air temperature.
If cooling was needed, there’s lotsa airflow one could direct right at the pump if it always ran hot.
Regarding mitigating other heat sources, one of these days I’m gonna wrap every inch of fuel line in the engine bay. Maybe with a doubled hose (mouse considerations here, too), or with an insulating or heat-reflective tape.
What to use, I’ve yet to research… but it gets damned hot in there.
| MarkWard wrote: |
| Cavitation can destroy a water pump. |
Extremely-timely post to something I’m dealing with at the moment… but further details from me would be off-topic to this thread. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
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SoquelDude Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Fuel Pump Cavitation Noise |
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| E1 wrote: |
| Restating that when working properly, the fuel pump is barely above outside air temperature. |
Yes, but we're discussing when things aren't working properly. If everything worked as it should, then there wouldn't be much of a need to post on Samba. _________________ '90 Vanagon Westy GL, AT, EJ22E conversion (1993 2.2L Legacy Engine) |
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