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JustSurf94 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2025 Posts: 9 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:14 pm Post subject: New Member |
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Hello All! Glad to have joined The Samba after a few years of lurking here and there.
I'm a native of San Diego, CA and have always wanted an old air-cooled VW. It helps that my wife was on the same page! My previous wrenching experience is on vintage Japanese motorcycles (Honda and Yamaha), RWD Volvos (the old 240 Bricks), Ford and Toyota/Lexus. Completely new to the air-cooled world and am learning a ton.
Just bought a survivor 1973 Standard Beetle from fellow Samba member Mike Farnham in Southern California, who was selling on behalf of the original owner, yes you read that right!
Car is all original, and cosmetically tired after 52 years of baking in the California sun, but the 1600 DP seems to be a strong runner (almost certainly rebuilt at some point). Runs really well aside from a flat spot when transitioning onto the main jet. which is almost indetectable once its been driven awhile.
My search for main jets for the Made in Mexico Bocar 34 PICT-3 is coming up fruitless... sounds like it might be a good idea to contact Antonia Trejo on here, as perhaps he has access to extra jets.
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 36338 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Welcome! Nice survivor!
Engine bay pics? I am betting someone put an 009 distributor in, and that is causing your flat spot. _________________ Current Fleet:
- '71 Fastback
- '69 Westfalia
Retired:
- '67 Beetle
- '65 Beetle (x2)
- '65 Bus
- '71 Squareback |
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Pez  Samba Member

Joined: September 16, 2003 Posts: 658 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Welcome aboard and congratulations on the incredible car! Sure hope you don't change it esthetically in anyway, but only do a mechanical refresh and enjoy the years to come with it!
And also congratulations on the transition from Swedish steel to the steel with a German heritage. I've spent sometime behind the wheel of several 244's and a 745, great cars but to many issues and much to rare in East Texas. But I always found myself back to my roots, that is air cooled VW's.
Hope you enjoy your adventures and keep us updated with plenty of pictures! _________________ Chasing Squirrel's.
1971 Bay Window
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 15223 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:20 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Very nice find!
I can be made to run properly but there will be a parts search to do it. My Boss from my last job called me a few weeks back, his wife HAD to have this '71 survivor Beetle she found. I told him to be prepared to have it drive him crazy trying to undo all the screwups and make it run properly again.
Well, they bought it and guess what? It runs like crap! Now the parts chase/real restoration work begins. The list is always the same.
-$20 chrome air cleaner
-009 distributor
-Bocar/EMPI/No Name carb
-Lower tins missing
-thermostat and flaps gone
-header that doesn't properly feed the heat riser
-plugged heat riser from no flow and over rich mixture trying to get a cold engine to run.
Symptoms are predictable too.
-starts but won't idle dependably
-runs great on the highway but not in town
-flat spots, stalls, hesitations
-fouled spark plugs
-accelerator pump maxed out, need more
-takes forever to warm up
Yes, post a photo or three so we can see how many of these things you have to deal with.
That car is well worth the effort to get it right! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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JustSurf94 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2025 Posts: 9 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| oprn wrote: |
Very nice find!
I can be made to run properly but there will be a parts search to do it. My Boss from my last job called me a few weeks back, his wife HAD to have this '71 survivor Beetle she found. I told him to be prepared to have it drive him crazy trying to undo all the screwups and make it run properly again.
Well, they bought it and guess what? It runs like crap! Now the parts chase/real restoration work begins. The list is always the same.
-$20 chrome air cleaner
-009 distributor
-Bocar/EMPI/No Name carb
-Lower tins missing
-thermostat and flaps gone
-header that doesn't properly feed the heat riser
-plugged heat riser from no flow and over rich mixture trying to get a cold engine to run.
Symptoms are predictable too.
-starts but won't idle dependably
-runs great on the highway but not in town
-flat spots, stalls, hesitations
-fouled spark plugs
-accelerator pump maxed out, need more
-takes forever to warm up
Yes, post a photo or three so we can see how many of these things you have to deal with.
That car is well worth the effort to get it right! |
You pretty much nailed it! I'll post engine bay pictures when I get home from work today.
- Stock 1973 airbox is re-installed, I just put the correct Mann filter in last night.
- The car does does have an 009 distributor on it and 'pointless' ignition. The seller advanced the timing by a few degrees and currently it does not ping in high load situations, like flooring it up a big hill in 4th gear. I'm not sure if putting on a stock vaccuum advance distributor would cause issues with the timing as-is, or if I would need to re-time it (never done this before... need to read up).
- Bocar Mexican carb (34 PICT-3 style). I believe the main jet is either a 127 or 127.5. Unfortunately, its an odd sized jet that is physically smaller than the Solex ones. I also dislike that there is no removable slow jet; it appears to just have a fixed circuit.
- Not sure about the lower tins, I'll post a picture from underneath and would appreciate any advice.
-I'll have to check to check the thermostat, flaps and heat riser, and definitely read up more on those too. Will send pictures.
- Have not pulled spark plugs yet, but that is next on my list
The symptoms are more or less how you described: Flat spot off-idle, and takes a good 30 minutes of running to warm up fully. It doesn't ever stall at idle, but my warm idle can definitely get lumpy where it shakes the car. I'm sure the transmission mount is also past its prime, so that probably doesn't help. But I know this thing isn't running its best... I have the twin carbs on my Honda CB450SC totally dialed in and it runs so good, you'd swear it was a fuel injected bike.
Thank you in advance to everyone! I want to teach my wife to drive this car, but there's no way I can have her practice driving stick AND deal with getting past flat spots...
Edit: wow I really see alot of bad sentiments about 009s after looking around more. I know this car had a vacuum advance distributor on originally, so I don't understand why the seller swapped on an 009 for a stock engine. Sounds like a rebuilt 034 from SparkWerx would be the best option for a stock DP. |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1588 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| JustSurf94 wrote: |
| Edit: wow I really see alot of bad sentiments about 009s after looking around more. I know this car had a vacuum advance distributor on originally, so I don't understand why the seller swapped on an 009 for a stock engine. Sounds like a rebuilt 034 from SparkWerx would be the best option for a stock DP. |
Or ...
Get a restored Solex from Tim at VolksBitz ( https://www.volkzbitz.com/home.html ) and pair it with restored distributor from SparxWerks. Tim and Bill will be glad to guide you to the best combination for your engine. Bill's restored fuel pumps are excellent and most importantly, deliver fuel at the correct psi . If you've got an aftermarket one, the pressure is probably too high. You'll be amazed at how smoothly these engines can run with the compatible stock components. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
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JustSurf94 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2025 Posts: 9 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
| Bill's restored fuel pumps are excellent and most importantly, deliver fuel at the correct psi . If you've got an aftermarket one, the pressure is probably too high. You'll be amazed at how smoothly these engines can run with the compatible stock components. |
I do believe I have a stock, mechanical pump on there, so that's a bright spot.
Again, I will post pictures tonight |
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 15223 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 6:41 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| JustSurf94 wrote: |
| I know this car had a vacuum advance distributor on originally, so I don't understand why the seller swapped on an 009 for a stock engine. |
Because:
1) some 1/4 mile guy in southern California in the late '60's put one on his race car and won a race. The popular performance VW magazines at the time said it was the latest "Hot tip!".
2) the 009 is what 100% of the aftermarket venders sell as a replacement distributor because... see reason #1.
Ever since then it has been the "Gospel" among those that don't know what it takes to make WVs run well on the road.
Old habits die hard!
A 034 may work reasonably well, I have never owned on but the proper vacuum distributor matched to a stock Solex will give you better off idle drivability and about 2 - 3 mpg better fuel economy. That's what the vacuum pot is for. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2788 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
| JustSurf94 wrote: |
| Edit: wow I really see alot of bad sentiments about 009s after looking around more. I know this car had a vacuum advance distributor on originally, so I don't understand why the seller swapped on an 009 for a stock engine. Sounds like a rebuilt 034 from SparkWerx would be the best option for a stock DP. |
Or ...
Get a restored Solex from Tim at VolksBitz ( https://www.volkzbitz.com/home.html ) and pair it with restored distributor from SparxWerks. Tim and Bill will be glad to guide you to the best combination for your engine. Bill's restored fuel pumps are excellent and most importantly, deliver fuel at the correct psi . If you've got an aftermarket one, the pressure is probably too high. You'll be amazed at how smoothly these engines can run with the compatible stock components. |
Completely agree on these suggestions and the references.
You might want to become friends with:
Robbie McCarthy (Airschooled)
and
Gary Schulte (Aeromech).
Both are talented mechanics and will treat you right.
Where are you in SD? We are in OB. _________________ Larry in OB
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
69 Westfalia and 2002 Eurovan Camper.
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JustSurf94 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2025 Posts: 9 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Completely agree on these suggestions and the references.
You might want to become friends with:
Robbie McCarthy (Airschooled)
and
Gary Schulte (Aeromech).
Both are talented mechanics and will treat you right.
Where are you in SD? We are in OB. |
We are located in Escondido. Just joined the North County Air Cooled group. |
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JustSurf94 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2025 Posts: 9 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Here are some pictures from the engine bay and underneath. Unless I'm mistaken, it appears that all of my tins are in place, including the lowers. It does have a vintage 4 Tuned muffler on it.
All comments are welcome! Sounds like it's in my best interest to go back to an SVDA distributor for a street driven car. I'm not opposed to keeping the Bocar 34 PICT 3 for now, if I can find spare jets (would be nice to try a 130 or 135 main... or at least have an extra 127 to drill out). The accelerator pump has a nice healthy squirt as soon as you open the throttle.
Anyone know if the heat risers can be checked without pulling it off the car? Like, with an IR thermometer to see if exhaust is passing through the middle of the crossover?
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2788 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2788 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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I see you have the fabric wrapped fuel line in the engine compartment. There have been many problems with that line cracking internally. Suggest you replace it with gates barricade. _________________ Larry in OB
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1588 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2025 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| OB Bus wrote: |
| I see you have the fabric wrapped fuel line in the engine compartment. There have been many problems with that line cracking internally. Suggest you replace it with gates barricade. |
I have no issues with using the Gates Barricade since it holds up well to fuel with ethanol (which is pretty much everywhere now). As far as I know, however, it doesn't come in metric sizes, so you'd want to be sure all connections are well clamped. I noticed that the PO used fuel injection style clamps for the fuel hose. That's what you'd want to use regardless of what fuel hose you use ... their design creates a more uniform, secure seal. BTW ... the original style fabric wrapped fuel hose most definitely does not hold up as well to ethanol, however, there is ethanol resistant fabric wrapped fuel hose available in metric sizes. Here's one source:
https://belmetric.com/eckstein-braided-multi-fuel-rubber-hose/?
Beware ... many VW parts sellers are still selling the original, non-ethanol resistant fabric covered fuel hose and some will tell you it has to be replaced at least once yearly regardless of miles driven ... I'd guess most of us would prefer not to deal with that chore that frequently.
On a side note ... IMO, it would be wise to move the fuel filter out of the engine compartment. Those clear plastic filters aren't as durable as metal bodied ones and the fewer fuel line connections in the engine bay, the better. Next to the transaxle or under the fuel tank are safer locations.
BTW, I believe your fuel pump is a non rebuildable aftermarket style. They're very common, but I doubt yours is delivering fuel at the proper psi. One of my bugs came with one and it was putting out over 5 psi ... proper psi is around 2.8 - 3.5. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
'70 Beetle Sedan
'73 Type 3 Fastback |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24419 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:15 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Cap off that vacuum advance port of the left side of the carb, like the others _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 11545 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:41 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Re: The heat riser test. Start the engine and as you have already stated, check the heat across the heat riser tubes to see what temp they are reaching.
I suspect it will be very little. Typically, most header systems don't provide a good amount of flow across the heat riser tubes unless, you modify the header tubes to catch the how exhaust gasses to help get the gasses flowing across the heat risers. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo!
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 15223 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:44 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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It does indeed appear to have all the bottom tins and a thermostat! That is very rare today!
The first order of business in my view is to take a hot pressure washer to that engine top and bottom and clean off all that accumulated muck. This will help you to locate the oil leaks.
It is hard to tell by the photo but it looks as though the thermostat is fully extended. If it is it could have failed and holding the flaps open causing the engine to run cold. Awesome Powder Coat on this site has new ones available. It could also have all the flutes plugged up with that muck and that will hold it open too.
Yes you can use a heat gun to establish flow through the heat riser. It would be very rare to have that style of exhaust properly support flow. You should be seeing at least 90*F on the aluminum heat sink directly below the carb after a good run on the road. Never mind what the temperature is at the ends of the heat riser, the center tells the story. Here is a good read. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=755518&highlight=
Yes, move that plastic fuel filter out of the engine compartment. It is perfectly positioned to spray fuel in the ignition system when it cracks. And given enough time it will.
I played with a Bocar carb for several years and never did get it to run right. Maybe you are better at it? I also have no idea what the vacuum signal is from it and which distributor matches that signal properly. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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NJ John Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 3030 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 7:11 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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Welcome! I have a yellow 73, too.
_________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
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Heiferman Samba Member

Joined: February 28, 2024 Posts: 412 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:12 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| OB Bus wrote: |
| Is that a socket stuck on the drain plug? |
Appears to be a pipe plug.  _________________ - 1973 Thing, 1970 Ghia, some LandCruisers and an old Ambulance |
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 900 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 10:48 am Post subject: Re: New Member |
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| Welcome and good luck with your bug as it looks like a solid base to start with. It is what I would expect a san diego bug to look like and I hope you bring it all the way back. |
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