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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:02 am    Post subject: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

I have a 78' Champagne edition Westfalia Type 2 and this week I decided to get the auxiliary heater running again. I had not used it for somewhere around 15 years and it would not fire up. I figured I would need to dig in to all the unattended parts to get it going again. I first checked the fuses and the safety switch under the dash, all good. I then removed the belly pan and decided before I removed the whole heater to access parts I would tap the fuel pump with a wrench to see if that would free it up and get it working. Unbelievably, I tried starting it again; immediately the pump started clicking and the unit fired right up!
I just wanted to share my success with the Samba and the VW bus community and say thanks for the many posts I read through before working on the heater.
This bus has AC, aux. heater, and cruise control(installed later) and it all fits in the vehicle nicely, if anyone has any questions about an original bus with these features installed I may be able to provide pictures of the way things were installed when new.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Good job Cool
If that braided fuel line leading to the pump is still 15+ years old you'll want to swap it out for fresh, especially if you've ever used fuel with any Ethanol in it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Hello Phil,
bugfil wrote:
I have a 78' Champagne edition...

Beautiful car, great features! Respect! Applause

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if anyone has any questions about an original bus with these features installed I may be able to provide pictures of the way things were installed when new.

I've no photos, where the drier is mounted at step 12

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my NOS ZVW 203 225 for later, when I don't travel far so much anymore (additional 92 lbs, ballast on my travels in Europe, Africa or Asia):
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/de-airconditioner.html
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Amazing and great that the BA6 works, well done. The BA6 is an awesome heater, very powerful and the way it's integrated with the stock heating ductwork is really beneficial.

And that's a crazy set of features for an old Bus.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

from from one ‘78 ce2 owner to another,

vw made a splash/rock pan for that heater. you might ask avery’s, busted bus, busco, way out, etc, if they have one. they were way more common in canada, so you might check there, too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

I understand all Canadian Westys had gasoline heaters, kinda funny as they wouldn’t allow propane stoves.
Tom, how’s the accident repair coming on your CEII?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2025 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Hi guys,
Good points to consider from you all.
Busdaddy, there is one hose I haven't replaced, the one that goes from the hard line to the glow plug, it looks like it may still be the orig. hose. I'll need to pull the unit down to access the connection at the glow plug, darn, I was hoping not to have to remove or partially remove the heater from the bus.

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Tom, thanks for the info. I do have the splash pan, just have it off while I work on the heater.

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Scott, you're right, these heaters are amazing.

rsbadura, my ac has the rear condenser coils mounted on the drivers side and the dryer is mounted to the body inside the drivers front fenderwell inside and slightly rearward of the shock absorber. This looks like the opposite of the drawing you sent.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

78 stock Canadian Westy with the gasoline heater. It always worked perfectly for over 15 yrs. Lately I’ve noticed the light in the dash switch does not come on. Tested the bulb and it’s good.
Any advice on where to look now?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Hi, I have not had any real experience with trouble shooting the heater because mine started working with a simple fix. I wish I could be more help. There are people much more experienced than I am withe the BA6 heater, maybe on of them will chime in with an idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

There was a dedicated BA-6 repair thread here somewhere, for now start with the manual: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/1977eberspacher_ba6_repair_manual.php
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Tks Bus Daddy, I reviewed the repair manual but didn’t see anything about the pilot light is the dash switch.
As stated, my BA6 heater has always worked for the last 16 years and puts out lots of heat. It’s just the light in the dash switch that stopped working recently even thought the heater continues to work. Again I tested the bulb which is good.
Looking for advise on how to repair.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Slip356 wrote:
... but didn’t see anything about the pilot light is the dash switch... It’s just the light in the dash switch that stopped working recently even thought the heater continues to work.

The user manual you have read:
https://www.vw-t2-bulli.de/data/books/manuals/1977-08-vw-zusatzheizung-ba6-manual.pdf
Do you use the clockwork if the switch (max ~10 min) while engine not running?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

I think I remember that there were two ways to wire the light in the BA-6 switch. One way the light comes on when the vehicle lights are on. The other way the light comes on when the switch is pulled out.

Be sure to flip over the triple relay in the driver's footwell to keep it from getting filled with water in case of any leaks.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Thanks Raymino,
Normally when I use the gas heater I’m driving and most always drive with lights on.I think I’ve run the heater a couple of time with the engine off but a long time ago.
I’ll be at my bus today and try the switch with the lights on. Not aware of pulling the switch out, will try that.
I normally push the switch in and rotate clockwise to set the full run time.
Oh, by the way it’s -12 F here in northern WI and my bus is tucked away in my heated shop, only to reappear when the snow and road salt is gone in the spring.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

busdaddy wrote:
Good job Cool
If that braided fuel line leading to the pump is still 15+ years old you'll want to swap it out for fresh, especially if you've ever used fuel with any Ethanol in it.


The type 4 cars have the BA4 heater. It is 100% identical in all components and control, relays etc....just a smaller overall chamber.

Through high school and college that heater got used a LOT. Cold enough winters in Oklahoma and Texas and it was my daily driver.

My point, is that with that level of usage, the braided fuel line from the metering pump up to the inlet elbow at the glow plug began to leak exactly every other year. It was the hot summers with no fuel in the line that did the most damage. It got hard as a rock and with vibration it cracked up near the heater.

I replaced that fuel line with an all metal piece of 3/16" tubing when I had the engine out for a rebuild. It uses a short piece....about 6" of good rubber line and two spring clamps down where it connects the pump....easy to check and replace without even getting under the car.

Up top....I took a steel pressure union ....brass does not work well enough.....and with a dremel tool and a chainsaw sharpening grinder bit...I enlarged the ferrule and the hole in the nut on the heater end of the union to fit snug on the heater elbow. Then attached the 3/16" tubing to the heater elbow leak free.

Whenever I had to have the heater out for some reason a quick unscrew of the heater side of the union and it comes right off leaving the swaged ferrule and nut attached to the heater.

The stock fuel line was routed through several steel loops in the body of the car. I still use those. I put pieces of 1/4" fuel line around the tubing to make it fit snug in the loops.

I bent this piece of line to shape with a simple hand bending tool. The whole process with the engine out took me about an hour to bend, place and get everything to meet up.

The inlet elbow on the heater is something like 4.5mm or 5.0mm in diameter. If I had more time and easier searching (this was pre-internet) I probably could have found a metric union and just used metric tubing for even less work.

Never leaked again and have never had to replace the fuel line again. Because it was never an issue, I left the inlet line between the pump and the accumulator in the fuel supply standard cotton braided line. Never had an issue. Needs to be replaced about every 5 years.

Excellent modification. Ray
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

Well, I tried the switch, lights on lights off, engine running/ shut off. Heater started but no dash switch light. Other dash lights all came on as normal.
I’ll need to check under the dash for a loose wire at the switch and also at the unit in the footwell ahead of the foot pedals.
But I did find a pair of gloves in the buss that have been missing for a while!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

I see a separate ground for the light on the wiring diagram, look for a brown wire.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2025 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Eberspacher BA6 Gas Heater Reply with quote

I will try that,I have been under he dash a bit ago so might have dislodged a wire. Thanks
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