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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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How do wing window latches get into the wrong position, so they can't latch? Do I need to beg, borrow or steal a new latch? Would taking the entire wing window out and trade to with another from one of my other buses be the easiest thing to do?
I see posts about knocking the roll pin out, but the one I am looking at seems pretty corroded...
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Bobby, you mean you cannot close the wing securely at all?
Our passenger-side latch doesn’t go all the way but still latches… think you’re saying yours won’t even go that far?
On parking brake clicks, ours take a little effort to get three and I would never want less than that. It’s been consistent at three the entire seven years we’ve had the van.
More clicks means less braking if used for its other term — Emergency Brake. If really needed, I want all of that!
Not sure where the four or five clicks idea comes from, but I want none of that.  _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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RicMcK  Samba Member

Joined: August 29, 2023 Posts: 288 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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I trun the drivers set so it's easier to put stuff there when parked. _________________ Rick McK
Seattle
89 Westfalia-2.2L WBX "VINNY"
2006 TDI Jetta
1936 Ford Pick up
70 tin top, 700k mi when sold in 91
58 split window bug - (first car) long gone. |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4710 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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E1, yes, on my '86 Westy, the passenger wing latch does not secure the window at all. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Oh Buddy, sounds like your repair idea may be the only way out then — but I hesitate saying that in never messing with it.
In our passenger-side case, it’s as if it’s “too tight” to rotate all the way forward. It goes maybe 20% from that and no more — but still secures it. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4710 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Well huh, I see that JBugs sells the glass, and all the holes appear to be round. I guess that I had thought it was a square hole keeping the latch from moving, but it is secured some other way.
While waiting for replies, I did a bunch of reading, one thread says to just turn it with steady pressure... I'm afraid of breaking it tho
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Maybe you’re tried this, but what if you turn the latch while keeping steady pressure on the outside glass?
In my case and maybe yours, it’s as if the inside of the latch is too tight against the glass. Or the rubber’s too thick, or…?
I’ll look at mine more intently and see if I can wise up a little more.
Fat chance in general, of course.  _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4710 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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I'm going to put some penetrating oil on the parts that contact the glass, and let that soak a few times over the next few days.. We have temps going from the low single's F to almost 40 F for the next few days, so that should shrink/grow the area slightly, maybe the oil will get in where it needs to go, and I can rotate the assembly without breaking anything. Fingers crossed.
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Best of luck, Bud. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator

Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 8607 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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| bobbyblack wrote: |
Well huh, I see that JBugs sells the glass, and all the holes appear to be round. I guess that I had thought it was a square hole keeping the latch from moving, but it is secured some other way.
While waiting for replies, I did a bunch of reading, one thread says to just turn it with steady pressure... I'm afraid of breaking it tho
-bobby |
Perhaps a diagram will help?
It's a "bolt-through" latch, which can be disassembled.
Both of my van's latches work, but they have never, in my ownership, locked into place, which they are supposed to do. One of these days, I'll have to take the time to troubleshoot. _________________ 1986 Cabriolet: www.Cabby-Info.com
1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
2016 Golf GTI S
"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." - 孔子 |
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4710 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Cool, thanks Kamz,
and E1.
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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You’re welcome, hope you nail it (so to speak). _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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whatwrenchwhere Samba Member

Joined: July 04, 2024 Posts: 92 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Recently did a valve adjustment to help valve chatter, and when I was turning the engine over from cylinder to cylinder by hand using the alternator belt/pulley, about half the time, the engine turned easily, and about half the time it took some hard effort to turn the engine.
Is this 'hard turning' normal for a 1.9 WBX on certain rotation points of the engine? Or is this abnormal? _________________ '85 Westfalia, 1.9L 2wd Manual |
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jimf909 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Recently did a valve adjustment to help valve chatter, and when I was turning the engine over from cylinder to cylinder by hand using the alternator belt/pulley, about half the time, the engine turned easily, and about half the time it took some hard effort to turn the engine.
Is this 'hard turning' normal for a 1.9 WBX on certain rotation points of the engine? Or is this abnormal? |
Did you remove the spark plugs? If not, it's difficult to rotate the engine through compression strokes. _________________ - Jim
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| This is the main fault with DIY'ers, they get together on these forums and pat themselves on their backs spreading bad information. |
Guilty as charged.
Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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whatwrenchwhere Samba Member

Joined: July 04, 2024 Posts: 92 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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@jimf909@ Not so much, just one to find TDC early on. I will have to try that. Thanks. _________________ '85 Westfalia, 1.9L 2wd Manual |
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4Gears4Tires Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2018 Posts: 4417 Location: MD
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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In fact, difficulty rotating the motor is a sign of good compression and a healthy motor. If you could spin the motor easily, there would be a host of problems. _________________ '87 Syncro Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
'85 Westy Sciuridae Domus Edition |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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^ You took the words write out of my, Um, fingers. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
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bobbyblack  Samba Member

Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4710 Location: United States, Iowa
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Update on passenger wing latch. two drops of oil, let sit, rotated CCW. worked a charm. might be a bit less tension than original spec, I'll keep an eye on it so as to not have it loosen enough to fall out.
-bobby _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8823 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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SWEEEET!!!
Dang, I’m gonna try oil next time we have ANY issues; engine, gearbox, brakes, heater, stove, poptop, whatevs.
Happy Holidays, Bobby. _________________ If ever twice as rich, we’re gettin’ a double-wide
’84 “Westfailure”/2.1 Digijet/5.43 Ring & Pinion/Peloquin/D-rated BFG KO2s
AI has spoken to further illiteracy, to steal, to cheat, and to replace humans
The caveman’s first question to the headhunter: “Hey, you got any coffee?” |
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fxr Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Official lazy person's stupid question thread |
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Andy - refer them to https://centerforplainlanguage.org/ Except I'm not sure how beneficial that would be, considering the ambiguity of nearly every official document... _________________ Jim Crowther
1984 1.9l EJ22 Westy Wolfsburg Edition
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