Muffler Heat Deflector

jasonious · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: Muffler Heat Deflector

I have a 73 bus. Did it come with a muffler heat deflector? It's item K below:

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Do I need one? Where can I get one? I've never seen one! Laughing

Thanks,
Jason

atmellovw · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:58 am Post subject:

I'm sure your bus did originally. You can't find one new, but I've seen used ones here in the classifieds (try doing a search). one side is attached to one of the tin bolts by the alternator and the other side has a tab that slips between a joint in the tin. I used my old rusted out one as a pattern to make my own out of a piece of galvanized steel from Home Depot. Works just fine. It does keep the heat from the muffler out of the engine compartment.
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SixVolt · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:00 am Post subject:

I'm looking for one for my '74. It seems a lot of them have been ripped off over the years with engine removals and not reinstalled. I have a contact who comes accross wrecked buses and lets me pick through them. I am going to search the item out. I'll post if I come up with an extra. I'm not sure about the differences, if any, between years. Maybe Randy or someone will know.

manikmike · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:09 am Post subject: muffler heat deflector pics

Hiya,

Any chance folks can share pics of their installed deflectors? I'm interested specifically in 74 and 79's- pretty sure my lower tin is complete (79) but my buddy's 74 is pretty bare overall... thanks!

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Mike
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dwill49965 · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:54 am Post subject:

I purchased a good used one for my '78 last summer from Karl, who frequents the forum. I'd try him first.
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Thirstytank · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:04 am Post subject:

Here's a pic of mine installed. I was told by my local VW guy "it's there for a reason, put it back on".

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atmellovw · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:39 am Post subject:

Of course with the bumper and the gravel guard affixed you will not be able to see the heat shield.
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sluggo · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:45 am Post subject:

I got mine from Busted Bus. Picked up a gravel guard too.
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PDXpaulie · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Muffler Heat Deflector

atmellovw · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:59 am Post subject:

I did not need to pull the exhaust to install mine, just the gravel guard.
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sluggo · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject:

atmellovw · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject:

Stock muffler (check out picture in my gallery). It just slid it up there, attaching it took a little finesse, but not too difficult. Don't know what else to say, that's what I did! Smile

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Wildthings · Samba Member Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 52264

I made the one that is on my 411. All I had were the two mounting brackets left from the old one. Didn't take very long at all. I made it double walled out of galvenized sheet metal and it is quite effective.

If you are missing the heat shield you will fry your foam gasket in short order, once that is gone you will soon be pumping very hot air over you heads.

Karl · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject:

Yes, the heat shield came on 72 and up type 4 bus engines.
It started out as part number 021 119 227B.
It ended up as part number 039 119 227.
The shape and length of the left end is different between the 2.
Neither one is available new from VW......

I have one nice one. Most lose the center hole tab where the holddown screw goes up into the center tin. It either rusts off or cracks and falls off.

NOVA Bus · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:35 am Post subject:

I picked this one up a few weeks ago, out of the three located, one was on not rusted beyond repair.

It's now headed to the powdercoater for long life preservation.
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atmellovw · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:13 am Post subject:

Those look pretty rough (at least from the the pictures). I would consider fabricating a "new" one, unless you are a purist. Smile

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PicklePickle · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject:

I know this is an old thread, but I just pulled this exhaust heat deflector off of my 74. I wanted to add some more pics of the heat deflector since there doesn't usually seem to be a lot of talk about this part. I thought mine was in bad condition until I saw some of these in this post. Maybe mine's not so bad after all. Guess, I just need to get to work stripping it down and then get it powdercoated like Karl did.

Ground side:

Engine side:

Too bad no one makes these since I would think that they would do wonders for preventing the searing heat from the exhaust from rising up to the fan just above it. I know the engine seal is supposed to prevent most of that, but this thing is pretty stout!
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EZ Gruv · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject:

I still dont have one! Embarassed

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dreadnotmusic · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

I'm looking for one too!
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sluggo · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject:


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