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Busin Samba Member

Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 213
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Breaking Rusted wheel Lugs Nuts Free? |
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I have been trying to remove some lug nuts on my 67 bus and I am having real trouble getting then to break free!. So far Iv tryed dw40, Heating them with a tourch then poring cold water on them, Using a 3ft cheater bar, hitting them with a hammer and everything I could think of doing, but still then wont break loss. Any idea's? Thanks! |
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mintonman Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2003 Posts: 4246 Location: between Trenton NJ. & Philly Pa.
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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impact gun is what you need. _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
under the influance "DUH" |
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mintonman Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2003 Posts: 4246 Location: between Trenton NJ. & Philly Pa.
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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you are turning them counter clockwise correct??  _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
under the influance "DUH" |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder

Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Before I had air tools I had a craftsman 3/4" combo wrench I used to hit with a hammer to break stubborn ones loose. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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Levonbenelli Samba Member

Joined: September 28, 2004 Posts: 1171
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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barring the purchase of a compressor and impact gun, I suggest an even longer cheater bar....say 10 feet or so... seriously. _________________ Wanted: flipseat parts: rear jump seat, folding chair, cups |
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Bryan67 Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2003 Posts: 2962 Location: Fresno, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Get a BFH and hit the lug bolt square on the head a few times. That will loosen it up. _________________ If you`re going to do something, do it right. |
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Anniehum Samba Member

Joined: November 23, 2003 Posts: 1197 Location: Kingston, Washington
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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aero kroil penetrating oil, let it sit, then use the cheater bar that you can step on... At least that worked for me when the 66 had been sitting for 22 years...
Cheers _________________ Ho'oponopono |
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UZI Platinum FUBU

Joined: February 08, 2002 Posts: 13335 Location: phila-DELFT-ia
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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in the event that the above methods don't work, you may need to drill out the centers of the lub nuts, get a torch and heat it up all glowy pouring flame down the hole. it will turn out like butter. _________________ Extravagant Lifestyle
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66uno Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2006 Posts: 603 Location: maryland
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: impact wrench |
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My mechanic buddy is gonna lend me his ELECTRIC impact wrench to do mine. Doesn't sound as good as air, but he swears that it works great. |
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420GOAT Samba Member

Joined: March 31, 2006 Posts: 3343 Location: Wilmington, CA on a nice quiet street but still in the 'hood
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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pb blaster penetrant and a hammer square on the lugnut.....jerk it right .....then back out left.......worked for me. |
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Gina Samba Member

Joined: April 09, 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: follow up question |
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Hey Levenbanelli? What would you suggest the 10 foot cheater bar be made of? Seriously, because I have the same problem on my Super ........(I know, cut me some slack)............. Beetle project. _________________ I am not a number |
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Lohe Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2007 Posts: 662 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok I just got mine loose after weeks of trying different things.
Went to home depot, got a 6 foot plumbing pipe. It's very thick and heavy.
Have a 1/2" craftsman ratchet.
Have an impact socket.
Tried having 300lb neighbor stand on wheel [took drum off spindle] but I turned HIM.
Had neighbor drive Jeep up onto my driveway. Lifted Jeep and put wheel under Jeep wheel. Lowered Jeep onto VW wheel.
That worked This after trying heat, using impact set at OVER max air pressure going cw and ccw, and using PB on back end of studs.
Pain in my ... hah |
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Lohe Samba Member

Joined: June 26, 2007 Posts: 662 Location: Chandler, Az
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: follow up question |
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Gina wrote: |
Hey Levenbanelli? What would you suggest the 10 foot cheater bar be made of? Seriously, because I have the same problem on my Super ........(I know, cut me some slack)............. Beetle project. |
I would suggest a nice thick pipe from home depot or lowe's plumbing department. Anything thin wall is just going to bend if it's that long  |
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Gina Samba Member

Joined: April 09, 2004 Posts: 462 Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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I know I can get the right tool......at Total Rental.......for 28 bucks a day and I know I can get an impact wrench from a VW community friend, but I was just wondering about ingenuity with what we have in our yards. Thanks for the info. _________________ I am not a number |
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Stocknazi Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5470
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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i have only had 1 lugbolt that i could'nt remove with a long breaker bar. it was already rounded off and the socket kept slipping.
curious if anyone has ever actually broken off a lugbolt trying to remove it? _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
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roberto Samba Member

Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 834 Location: West Central Ohio
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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StockNazi wrote: |
i have only had 1 lugbolt that i could'nt remove with a long breaker bar. it was already rounded off and the socket kept slipping.
curious if anyone has ever actually broken off a lugbolt trying to remove it? |
Yes! twice on the same wheel!  |
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Nic B-C Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2006 Posts: 605 Location: North East UK
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15265 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes the really stuck part is on the cone of the wheel part not the threads. If you can get them loose, always loosen them together, not take one off at a time. The last two always seem to get stuck that way. Also if you can get 4 tough ones off and the last one is the frozen one then rotate the wheel and lug bolt together against the drum. Kapische? |
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Levonbenelli Samba Member

Joined: September 28, 2004 Posts: 1171
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: Re: follow up question |
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Lohe wrote: |
Gina wrote: |
Hey Levenbanelli? What would you suggest the 10 foot cheater bar be made of? Seriously, because I have the same problem on my Super ........(I know, cut me some slack)............. Beetle project. |
I would suggest a nice thick pipe from home depot or lowe's plumbing department. Anything thin wall is just going to bend if it's that long  |
Yeah, I just had a pipe lying in the barn that I had to use for my axle nuts, It was more like 12 feet long and I hung off of it while my buddy torched and hammered the nut.
Wow...that sentence is a bad joke waiting to be exploited.  _________________ Wanted: flipseat parts: rear jump seat, folding chair, cups |
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dms Fred G. Sanford

Joined: August 05, 2007 Posts: 493 Location: At large. . .
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I had a 7 foot piece of pipe in a cheater bar .
I was lifting the bus 6 or 8 " off the ground .
I found that the wheel would turn , so I tied a cement block through the one of the openings in the rim . It didn't turn then .
The cement block trick might not work if you have 14" rims , the slots are smaller , or they dont have any , I forget which .
Either way , best of luck with it . _________________ If you don't like the way I drive , stay off the sidewalk . |
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