356 in a 65 bus

[hendrix]

Anyone fit a 356 engine and gearbox in 65 bus.?

[LittleThunder]

Go to search on the toolbar at the top of the page. Type "Porsche engine in bus" in the subject, on search options check search title only. Lots of discussions on this one. Good luck in your search.

[hazetguy]

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[sub-hatchtim]

a 356 is a super 90 engine it wil fit no problem there is a guy in my town named t-lo with a uper 90 in his 66 panel

[quartermilecamel]

just curious, is a 356 more powerful than a 1600Dual Port? When you say it bolts right on, what exacty is involved. Just because it bolts right onto the transmission doesnt mean there arent shitloads of sheetmetal mods to be done.

[sub-hatchtim]

there shouldnt be any mods needed they are a 4 cylinder

this is a 356 super 90 engine

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=620412

The type 616/7 engine had modified cylinder heads with larger, less restrictive ports and an inlet valve diameter size of 40 mm. They used Solex 40 PII-4 carburetors like those on the 1500 Carrera 4-cam. These changes, plus an increased compression ratio to 9.0:1 and a redesigned muffler resulted in an output of 90 hp at 5500 rpm (with the tachometer redline changed to that figure). In addition, the Super 90 model came standard with Koni sport shocks, slightly larger 5.90 - 15 tires (instead of 5.60), 23 mm rear torsion bars (not 24.1 mm, Conradt makes an error on the size, see below) and the now infamous compensating spring at the rear.

more info here

http://www.356registry.org/Tech/identifying_super90.html

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[Alan Brase]

[quartermilecamel]

now I would guess 356 porsche engines well just the name says it.....expensive?

[sub-hatchtim]

the guy in my town with th s90 in his panel has been running it for at least 15 years but for what its worth build a 1915 with dual carbs youll be mutch happier

[lurkinstock]

I bought my single-cab from Rick at Rusty Tubs in Atlanta. They deal pretty much exclusively with 356's and old porshe's. Rick bought the scab in missouri to use as a shop truck. They were trying to sell it with a S-90 motor in it. I told them I would buy it without the motor, because I already had a 1600sp in the garage waiting for something to throw it in. I figured if the S-90 motor went out I would be screwed.The price difference was 2,500.00 I think I did the right thing
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[mpribanic]

A couple of years ago, trying to get my single cab to Bulli Brigade, I tried stuffing my 356 engine in the '58 single cab. I think the exhaust hit & would need to be modified to fit. I can't remember if the carbs hit as well. Something wasn't right....
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[steve mighetto]

I worked in an independent garage back in the late '70s and we had a customer put a 356 engine in his bus. He left the rear bumper and apron off. He may have bent the sheet metal in the engine compartment a bit. It was a real LB (low budget) job.

This customer was friends with the shop owner and brought the bus in to discuss what else to do. His reason for swapping in the motor was kind of unique. He had a peanut butter and chocolate situation with a bus and a 356 he couldn't drive. He had a DUI in his Porsche and had lost his license. He convinced a judge he needed his license to work and said his bus was his work vehicle. I’m pretty sure the guy was a “Trust Fund” kid and never worked a day in his life; not that that would be a bad thing, just totally inconsistent with what he told a judge.

I drove the bus. It was fun but more in a scary “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride” kind of way. The bus was a beater with lots of play in the steering and bad brakes. The 356 muffler was cracked and noisy. It had been damaged in the "DUI spinout". First gear was next to useless; it was over in a flash. The bus owner recommended starting in second gear. Starting in second required slipping the clutch but worked OK. A motor with more torque would be much better.

My boss’s recommendation was to fix the exhaust, steering and brakes. And then put a rev limiter on the motor; “The motor is worth more than this bus so don’t blow it up”. The guy liked the rev limiter idea and the boss put one in. He skipped the rest of the recommendations.

I could hear the limiter kicking in as he drove off. He drove off with the engine cover flapping, three inches of play in the steering, crappy brakes, a loud exhaust, and the engine cutting out before each shift. You could hear him for miles.

I was in my 20’s and thought it was pretty cool.

BTW – the guy stayed sober and ended up swapping the bus engine back in after getting cited for the noisy exhaust. He didn’t want that information to get back to the judge.

[Mark Henry]

Why???

I can (and did) build a more powerful engine out of a T1.
A rebuild would cost you big time.
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[malachai]

if Hendrix is the same young boy who was known as Hendrixmaster on VZI (and then banned) then it doesn't really matter how well a 356 engine goes into a bus, or even a food mixer for that matter. If it is the same person they don't even own a bus, I don't think they can even drive, but he does love to ask stupid questions.

If its not the same person then sorry, carry on.
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[hendrix]

[quote="malachai"]if Hendrix is the same young boy who was known as Hendrixmaster on VZI (and then banned) then it doesn't really matter how well a 356 engine goes into a bus, or even a food mixer for that matter. If it is the same person they don't even own a bus, I don't think they can even drive, but he does love to ask stupid questions.

If its not the same person then sorry, carry on.[/quote]

No its not henrixmaster . just curious and new on the scene , thanks for the feed back.