1972 bay conversion

Bluetork · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: 1972 bay conversion

I am transferring a 2000cc upright engine in to my 1972 bus. I have figured out the engine tin but how do i support the engine on the under bar. Do i need to modify that as well? if any one has i would like to know in detail how you did this.

jah_B · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject:

a quick search of "engine mount conversion" yields a lot of results...and nobody will get pissed off cause you asked an old question! Laughing

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TRN9 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:

When your "2000cc upright motor" dies put back what should be in there....... TYPE IV!

calebmelvin · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject:

In a thread a while back some good information came up on how to do this, you will probably find it while searching. Basically, you use the bar/mounts from an early bay for support.
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jah_B · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:53 am Post subject:

There's an adapter plate that attaches to the rear of the case from the moustache bar. no big, isn't AS solid, but reportedly would only break under ridiculous circumstances.
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1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s

1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus

You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man.

Blaubus · Samba Member Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=255240

that plate will bolt to the case at the oil pump. this ad should include the filler plate, but doesnt. i have one of these spare, which i could send you, as i dont have the rest of it.

these adaptors are known to promote oil leakage, but you can solve that by:

1) using german studs (plate needs longer than stock)
2) grinding back the ears of the pump cover to clear the filler plate thickness
3) smearing a very thin layer of permatex aviation gasket sealer to the thin gasket between the pump and its cover.

busdaddy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:35 am Post subject:

That's still not going to make a type 1 bolt up to a type 4 moustache bar, you'll need a 68-71 bar and something to adapt it to the later frame rails. Or a 72-79 1600 moustache bar and mounts (good luck finding one in North america, uber rare).
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jah_B · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:40 am Post subject:

Really? I thought that that was the whole point of the adapter plate, to bolt to a TIV moustache bar... oh, ok.
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1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s

1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus

You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man.

busdaddy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:57 am Post subject:

A plate does exist to do it, I saw one on a bus a couple of years ago, shoulda taken a pic.. It attached to the 3 case lugs and had the saddles for the angled rubber mounts, it was well constructed and cad plated, definitely not a one off effort.

Edit; Went digging in the gallery for the 71 bus I saw it on, found a pic of it when it still had the DTM type 4 installed (I saw it with a type 1 reinstalled after the hack), the mount plate looks very similar and seems to have holes for the type 1 lugs too, I thought it used stock rubber mounts though, Hmmmmm.

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jah_B · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:05 am Post subject:

There's this one.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=283360
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1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s

1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus

You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man.

busdaddy · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:11 am Post subject:

jah_B · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:

OIC!
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1984 CABRIOLET 6spd, quaife diff, Neuspeed springs, sway bars, tie bar, short shift kit, bilstein shocks, 16X7 RSE 3pc wheels, BFG TA 205 40s

1972 tintop P30 CAMPMOBILE: M/T, 1.7L, dual kadrons, 019 diz. Sunny the S'kool Bus

You gotta know what you don't know. That's the key to wisdom. man.


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