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speedster2
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Location: french east cost
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| boost at 13.77 psi ( 0.95 bar ) |
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Evelyn Tremble
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| miniman82 wrote: |
| Full throttle is the easy part, it's everywhere else that they fall on their face. |
If you say so, you may know better than we do. |
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Irvin
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Joined: December 15, 2007
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Location: 48.408123° N 4.499546° W
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| Evelyn Tremble wrote: |
Carb is a stock 34pict Solex modified to tun without the stock venturi. carb runs as if venturied in 34mm. Carb has been sized up to 36mm.
To cancel the natural lag of this carb once the venturi has been removed, the carb is fitted with an auxiliary venturi (as in the DRLAs and other webers). The carb is smooth and progressive all around in a N/A config. This allows the car to run without any turbo lag at all once turboed.
Engine gives @ 2500 the same power and torque as the original stock N/A 1600 @ its best. Then both torque and power increase up to 225NM and 138hp @ 4500rpm.
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Hi,
I'm glad to finally get a sound explanation on why you chose to use an auxiliary venturi, thanks.
I remember one guy of your team wrote two months ago that the 34 mm bore was perfect and that the idea to bore to 36 or 38mm was a useless waste of time. What made you change your mind so quickly ? (original message translated here for english ppl: http://translate.google.fr/translate?js=y&prev...&tl=en )
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Evelyn Tremble
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36mm carb is beeing tried. It does not mean it will work.
We do know that a 34pict venturied in 34 is perfect.
And when we talk about perfection, we mean that the car is performant (as in "no matter what you drive, I'm gonna pass you and if not, you're gonna swet and regret you spent so much in such a GT")
in the mountains as well as on the highway. With a gas mileage we're not ashamed of. And this, on a daily driven experience.
We just wanna know about the 34 bored to 36mm.
But sometimes, a lil more becomes a lil too much. And things don't go as well as before. 
Keep in mind that (unless otherwise, i.e. we don't know 'bout it) no one has done this before. So for us, it's all about trials and discoveries.
Plus we work on a tight budget. It's all about great power and long lasting engine at a lower cost.
Reliable 1600cc 140hp turbo has been completely built with about $2000. Even less.
Just begin to list all the parts necessary to build a N/A 140hp engine...
How much does a injection cost? 
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miniman82
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Joined: March 22, 2005
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| And when we talk about perfection, we mean that the car is performant; as in "no matter what you drive, I'm gonna pass you and if not, you're gonna sweat and regret you spent so much in such a GT." |
It's a good feeling, isn't it? 
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I just wanted to bitch but I'm getting no sympathy. |
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Evelyn Tremble
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| miniman82 wrote: |
| Evelyn Tremble wrote: |
| And when we talk about perfection, we mean that the car is performant; as in "no matter what you drive, I'm gonna pass you and if not, you're gonna sweat and regret you spent so much in such a GT." |
It's a good feeling, isn't it? |
Hell yeah! |
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Evelyn Tremble
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What does a 2110cc turbo engine look like...
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buguy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| Stealthy!! |
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Irvin
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Ok it looks awesome but what's the point ? Anybody looking under the car will notice there is a turbo mounted on it... not to mention the noise when it runs.
It's fun, and in some countries important, to have a motor with a street legal look, but when you start playing with a turbo I just don't understand why bother hiding it as ANYONE will notice there is a turbo hidden somewhere the second you fire up the engine.
Nice job anyway. |
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buguy
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| Lets have some video!! |
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miniman82
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| Anybody looking under the car will notice there is a turbo mounted on it... not to mention the noise when it runs. |
You can't see the turbo on my car, and you can't hear it either... Everyone's surprized when I tell them it's turbo, you'd never guess if I didn't let you know.
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Irvin
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But as far as I know you're cheating a bit with your turbo installed behind the motor
Don't get me wrong, Evelyn Tremble's job is awesome but I don't get the point to it... Except the fun, of course  |
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Bill271
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Are these hp numbers on an eng dyno or chassis? |
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miniman82
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| Irvin wrote: |
| But as far as I know you're cheating a bit with your turbo installed behind the motor. |
How is it cheating? I'm just willing to go the extra mile. 
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spyvsspy
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That stealth 2110cc turbo engine is the baddest engine I've ever seen in my life. Why would you want a stock looking turbo? So you can hustle unsuspecting victims in a street race!! (And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast!)
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miniman82
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| And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast! |
Doesn't work, trust me. I have 3 speeding tickets to prove it. 
He just said 'I know it's a '58, but speeding is speeding'. 
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spyvsspy
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Might not work with stateside cops but with Puerto Rican police, hahahahah!
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fastinradford
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the no vacuum to the dist says something's up. either doing something sweet, or dumb.
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Irvin
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| And say "Officer, there's NO Way I was going that fast! |
Ok that's a good reason
"What ? That whistle when I accelerate ? Well you know stock exhausts on 1600 engines have a whistle noise"  |
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Evelyn Tremble
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Turbo is not behind the engine. It's all tucked in between the crank pulley and the rear body panel.
Car sounds like original.
Dump valve is progressive to avoid the typical "tchii" at deceleration. So when you pass by five-0, there's nothing tale telling. Plus it allows engine to run smoother and more linearly. This makes the car very drivable on ice and snow.
You could even knee down to look under the car, as we're making fake original looking exhaust. We do that even though the turbo is already hidden underneath by the muffler.
On the other hand, I've never seen any officer crawling under a car to check anything.
You should keep in mind that if there's no regular technical check up test in the US, over here in Europe, we have to have the car checked by the automotive dept every two years. Bring a beetle that does not look original to this test and you're sure to fail.
We also realize that the difficulty of making it all invisible is not of everyone's capability, which was a good challenge. Nothing on the car body has been cut. It's all tucked in, and everything is reachable and practical. It's not like those kits you see for sand rails or dune buggies where you almost need to undo everything to change the fan belt.
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