What exhaust for a mild motor, OTHER than a QP?

[DonnieDarko]

I want something with rumble at idle, not just at WOT like the QP. I have some cheap stock bolt on replacement ("GT Sport Style" ... got it from MAM) ... the thing is pretty crappy and probably gives no performance gain, but the sound is nice.

I'm planning on getting a header, dual Weber 40 IDFs, and I need something other than a QP to get.

I love the sound of a Stinger, but it's too obnoxious looking for me.
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1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle - Daily Driver/Rolling Project Beater - Stock w/ GT Style Exhaust
1972 Volkswagen Bus - Project
1970 Volkswagen Standard Beetle - Baja Project

I pick cheap and reliable.

[rustfree1967bug]

Even the high hp stroker vw's with a phatboy exhaust don't really rumble at idle. The only exhaust to do that would be a stinger.
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[DonnieDarko]

Nothing similar to a stinger that doesn't stick out like a tail, is there by any chance?
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1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle - Daily Driver/Rolling Project Beater - Stock w/ GT Style Exhaust
1972 Volkswagen Bus - Project
1970 Volkswagen Standard Beetle - Baja Project

I pick cheap and reliable.

[rustfree1967bug]

You can get a header with glass pack exhaust.I think cb performance sells them.I am working on a car with that exhaust right now and it has a good sound when you rev it out and are on the throttle.But isn't all that loud at idle.
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'69 ghia
'65 singlecab
'66 sunroof beetle
'74 bus
'67 so-42


IDA's...well... they talk dirty -MURZI

[H8N LYF]

try buying a stinger and have a muffler shop modify it to the left or right side under the rear apron
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[Alister]

I posted a thread weeks ago, complaining about the common aftermarket offerings. Decided to make my own:

Cost about the same as the ceramic-coated Fat Boy/Mondo: $150-ish altogether, including the coating (done locally) and shipping costs.

Muffler: Moroso Spiral-Flow, 2 1/2" in/out - $56 (note: they're available in stainless... $90)
Tubing: Summit 180° J-bends x 2, 2 1/2" - $48
Silver ceramic coating: C&A Automotive, Mountain Home, Idaho - $50

Nice, rumbly idle, turning to a sharp rasp at 3k rpm or so. Minimal interior resonance, terrific ground clearance. I have a vid of it on my YouTube channel (Alisterwolf66), but it doesn't do justice. Similar in sound to a Flowmaster 40-series, but a bit raspier and more aggressive. Not so obnoxious you'll have the neighbors complaining, though.

In hindsight, a pair of 'normal' short-leg U-bends would have had plenty of material. So there's a few bucks you can save.

I didn't cut the flange bend at an angle, as do EMPI and Bug Pack, so the 180° bend sticks out a bit further than their setups do. Otherwise, everything sits under the apron, out of the way. Also, that's a 1 5/8" merged header - collector flange is a couple of inches behind the apron. With a "normal" header and smaller tubing, you should be able to almost tuck everything behind the apron.
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[wompninja]

If you use the sidewinder header you wouldn't have that huge U sticking out of the back of your car.

[Hotrodvw]

He would also be $300 poorer ......you're not talking apples to apples here.
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Eric

78x94 with IDA's....oober fun

Horsepower is an addiction........Addictions cost
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Hose & Fittings

[Marv [UK]]

no one going to mention a zoom tube then?

Back to the old skool and spirit of the 80's and all that. French the tail lights and smooth the licence plate out, smooth weld all the seams......

[wompninja]

[Alister]

[daflee]

i love how mine sounds. empi gt w/o baffles
it's loud, and gives the idle almost a.... mini v8 sound? haaha
combined with the dual drla's the sound is sex to my ears

Link

[Alister]

[Bigmeat]

I happen to like my zoom tube. I replace with the Bugpack gt exhaust tips. Nice sound. Zoom tube is for sale cheap.

[167luckycharm]

If you plan on purchasing an array of pre-bent exhaust tubing, go with these guys; Columbia River Mandrel Bending 1-800-615-tube. Shipping through the postal service, payments through PayPal, good prices, and a wide assortment of material/sizes to choose from. I've done a couple purchases from them and was more than pleased each time. They even reimbursed the difference of the shipping cost when the quoted price on their website was higher than it should. Quality bends too. I will be making another purchase in the near future for the next Hayabusa muffler installation.
Here's a couple pics from my last installation;

Hotrod, perhaps your shipping incident caused an improvement to their shipping policy. If so, then many thanks to you. It's unfortunate that you had to have a bad experience just so the rest of us can enjoy better shopping. Thanks for the heads-up on shipping costs.
Aloha!
John
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[Hotrodvw]

I live 2hrs south of them, and went round and round with them about raping me for shipping costs. I bought (1) V-band set up from them, they wanted to charge me $14 to ship it.......rediculous. I e-mailed the shipping mgr, and after a few e-mails back and forth, he made it right. All I'm saying is, watch the shipping costs!
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Eric

78x94 with IDA's....oober fun

Horsepower is an addiction........Addictions cost
lots of money!

Hose & Fittings

[Hotrodvw]

[Reaper]

[alien8]

Same here. The Gt is about the only option for a 4 into 1 that exits stock cutouts that has good ground clearence. It flows pretty good with the baffels removed. Quite surprised. There are a couple of things I dont like about it though.Its rusting really quickly,well it is an Empi and a cheap system so enough said there.
I had to flatten one of the pipes to fit a full flow pump cover.
Two of the pipes touch and vibrate making a horible noise. That was sorted by strapping the two together.
The tail pipes were welded on too much of an upward angle and hit the rear apron making a bad noise. I had to bend the apron outwards to give enough clearence.
If they could get it right I would buy another but this things starting to piss me off. I think I am going to get a stainless hidaway next time, well very soon actually. But I do like the design,performance and sound of this system apart from all the problems.

[Budes45]

I took the same road as Alister.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=178925&highlight=