Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Premium Membership  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Speedo cable length
Forum Index -> Beetle - Split-Window/1938-53 VWs Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:38 am    Post subject: Speedo cable length Reply with quote

Hi,

I put in a question about speedo cable for split a couple of month ago, and got the answer that they are of different length. But I did not get the answer of how long is the normal bug cable and how long are the split cable?

Will a cable from a later bug fit in a split?

Haven't seen anyone selling a repro speedo for splits. So I guess that a newer one will fit?
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
virtanen
Samba Member


Joined: January 08, 2006
Posts: 1506
Location: Finland
virtanen is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hej Johan,

later speedo cable does not fit, because split needs longer cable. One can be bought from Veteranen Service for 22 euro.

I can find the lengts if you still need.

Mika
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be that a cable from 1302 works, got the info that
Split 1355 mm
1302-03 1390 mm
could that be right?
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
virtanen
Samba Member


Joined: January 08, 2006
Posts: 1506
Location: Finland
virtanen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I check my info: split has 1350 mm, later beetle 1235 mm. Why not to place the correct one?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it simply is not available on the places i shop.

i have a catalouge from veteranen service but never bought anything (apart from the catalouge itself at hessich). as they have only german language info and no webshop it is a treshold for me to order from them...

if 1302 fits and is readily available that is good enough for me...
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
virtanen
Samba Member


Joined: January 08, 2006
Posts: 1506
Location: Finland
virtanen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have bought lot of parts form VS since 1995 before net time, and been very satisfied every time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
eurodub
Samba Member


Joined: August 05, 2007
Posts: 1321

eurodub is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-113-957-801-A

1390mm speedometer cable for super beetle.

so i hopse is the same as for splits.. as i really need one Laughing
_________________
1960 1200 model 117 deluxe ragtop
1976 MK1 Golf
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
virtanen
Samba Member


Joined: January 08, 2006
Posts: 1506
Location: Finland
virtanen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is too complicated you to order from Germany, maybe your local speedo repairer can make a cable for you. Near my place is located a repair shop who offers to make speedo cables: (only Finnish language) http://www.palanto.fi/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Viande
Samba Member


Joined: August 14, 2008
Posts: 1719
Location: GA
Viande is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part number is 111957801G is for Split Beetle to chassis number 397 022 (8/52). Length is 1355mm. Part is 19.23 Euros or 26.07 USD.

111957801H ran from chassis number 397 023 - 1 600 439 and is 1275mm.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
Bobby
New Items In Stock, NOS & OEM Seals,Parts and Terminals
My Feedback Here

The bitter taste of poor quality lingers long after the joy of the cheap price fades away.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Gallery Classifieds Feedback
virtanen
Samba Member


Joined: January 08, 2006
Posts: 1506
Location: Finland
virtanen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more possibility: Hagen in Germany, almost web shop Wink, "Nr.4 Tachowelle Brezel": 10 euro

http://www.ursula-hagen.de/Elektrik.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the good links and info.

I will certainly have to try Veteranen service at some point. Now I ordered a cheapo (89SEK/9€) superbeetle cable that is 1390mm and I hope have the same connection at speedo side, as I needed to order some other parts. If it does not fit, I'll try the german companies.

It seems veteranen service has almost ALL parts available... can that really be so? It is sooo hard to find some parts, can it be that easy that you just call them?!? Is the trick you need to know some german to get access to all the split parts... Rolling Eyes Laughing Guess I'll have to find my old school books in german...
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Viande
Samba Member


Joined: August 14, 2008
Posts: 1719
Location: GA
Viande is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johan_l wrote:


It seems veteranen service has almost ALL parts available... can that really be so? It is sooo hard to find some parts, can it be that easy that you just call them?!? Is the trick you need to know some german to get access to all the split parts... Rolling Eyes Laughing Guess I'll have to find my old school books in german...


Understanding German will give you access to many hard to find parts. I have found so many supposedly NLA parts there. Do not be afraid to contact the OEMs themselves either. I have found quite a few items sitting in a warehouse corner long forgotten this way. I have also found these companies very helpful and friendly when you inquire about this old stuff. Most are very proud of what they produced or still do.
_________________
Bobby
New Items In Stock, NOS & OEM Seals,Parts and Terminals
My Feedback Here

The bitter taste of poor quality lingers long after the joy of the cheap price fades away.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Sepi
Samba Member


Joined: October 04, 2008
Posts: 137
Location: Mikkeli Finland
Sepi is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johan! VS people know english as well.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
owdlvr
Samba Member


Joined: June 23, 2008
Posts: 686
Location: Squampton BC
owdlvr is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 1302 cable pulled from a 72 downstairs. Please post up if you still need me to dig it out and measure the length. If you've already ordered a replacement I won't bother, but if you need a true and honest measurement let me know.

Heck, I'll sell you the cable if you want it.

-Dave
_________________
---
Instagram: @DaveHord
1971 1302s - Salzburg Tribute the #RallyBug
1958 Beetle
1975 Beetle
1973 Super Beetle
1993 C3500 with Cummins swap
1967 MGB
1963 MG Midget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the offer, but it is not necessary, I already ordered the cable and it should be a little longer than an OG split cable, but not that much... I'll see if it has the correct fitting, but I have a broken cable that I can compare with. So in a week or so, I'll know... Smile
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Hebster52
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2003
Posts: 1926
Location: Finland, Jakobstad
Hebster52 is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep us posted.

Regarding V-S they do answer e-mails and do know English very well. I have not yet bought anything directly from them yet as I have been able to get some of their parts other ways so far.
_________________
~Kris~
"The Hebster52" my Hebmuller replica build
The 912ST
The KidVRod project
The 356 Pre-A replica,SOLD
The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail MSN Messenger Gallery Classifieds Feedback
overrestored
Samba Member


Joined: December 24, 2005
Posts: 730

overrestored is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

North Hollywood Speedometer in Southern California is a specialist in restoring and repairing VDO gauges. They can build a cable whatever length you need custom. They have all the correct fittings etc. I have used them to restore a lot of gauges with excellent results.

I imagine that any shop in the world that specializes in the restoration of VDO gauges might have the capacity to make cables.

I agree with "Virtanen" above... If you cannot find what you need via the VW aftermarket... I would go to a speedometer shop and have a look.

Also... just for everyone's info... the cable end that inserts into the back of the speedo... should only extend out from the housing about 6mm or so. If it extends any more than that you may damage the guts of the speedo when you tighten it onto the speedo. It will cause undue pressure on the interior mechanism. Some aftermarket speedo cables stick out too far from the cable housing end. The photo above from "Viande" shows the correct length you should have.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

overrestored wrote:

Also... just for everyone's info... the cable end that inserts into the back of the speedo... should only extend out from the housing about 6mm or so. If it extends any more than that you may damage the guts of the speedo when you tighten it onto the speedo. It will cause undue pressure on the interior mechanism. Some aftermarket speedo cables stick out too far from the cable housing end. The photo above from "Viande" shows the correct length you should have.


Thanks, this was very useful info, I would hate to ruin my speedo... I'll check the cable when it arrives...
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
johan_l
Samba Member


Joined: March 14, 2004
Posts: 533

johan_l is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The superbeetle cable came today and looked just like the cable in the picture above...

Length 1400mm... I guess the excess 50mm would be no problem...

I will have to report back if the 50mm generates any problem in a year or two or longer, as my split still has a very long way before ready... Rolling Eyes

But I'll try it with the speedo before that to see if the connection/threads are the same, but I guess I can use the threaded cap from my old cable... That would anyway look nicer as it is metal instead of plastic...
_________________
Johan, Sweden
1960 Karmann-Ghia coupé
1957 Oval window
Bastard Split window <-- Translate
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - Split-Window/1938-53 VWs All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2025, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.