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bderewic
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Just Talked to Schreloh..... he said they are still in prototype phase, working on making them stronger and more stable... he said there wont be sets around for sale for 2 months  |
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pow_rider17
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I contacted Air_Cooled_Nut via pm around September last year about these because DDB's website had disappeared.
He said that there was no rush to get them, he had sets around and it didn't sound like it was the last of them, but I could be wrong. |
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bderewic
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| i PMed him yesterday but havent heard anything yet... maybe he has a set laying around... |
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pow_rider17
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Ya I never got any becasue he said there was no rush.
So let us know what you hear. |
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bderewic
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| just heard from paul at T3D, he doesnt have any |
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pow_rider17
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bderewic
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| found an OG set in the classifieds weeks ago... got them shipped for 200... not bad compared to the repops for 215euro+shipping... that will end up being $300 |
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pow_rider17
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| $350 to be exact. |
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squaretobehip
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| $350 to be exact. |
I think I'll hold out for some OG ones.
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Air_Cooled_Nut
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| Just Talked to Schreloh..... he said they are still in prototype phase, working on making them stronger and more stable... he said there wont be sets around for sale for 2 months |
Having a pair of originals that I installed in my ride I can comment:
-They are stable. If someone found them instable then they didn't install them correctly (which would be very hard to do) or their vehicle is outta whack. The geometry is very simple.
-To repop, rather difficult, as I've asked a couple different places if they could do it. The price would've been much higher than $200 (this was a few years ago).
-Being repop'd in steel makes sense as that's easier to do. The ones in the classifieds look like it has some welds. Just remember, steel rusts...
-I question if the repop'd ones are significantly stronger but, more importantly, IT DOESN"T MATTER! You're sleeping on them, not carrying pianos or using it as a trampoline! Anyone who has the originals knows how beefy they are and do a perfect job holding the spot up that you SLEEP on. Some marketing ploys are annoying.
They are expensive but they aren't easy to make so it's understandable. I think it's great someone stepped up and are remaking them.
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squaretobehip
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| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
| bderewic wrote: |
| Just Talked to Schreloh..... he said they are still in prototype phase, working on making them stronger and more stable... he said there wont be sets around for sale for 2 months |
Having a pair of originals that I installed in my ride I can comment:
-They are stable. If someone found them instable then they didn't install them correctly (which would be very hard to do) or their vehicle is outta whack. The geometry is very simple.
-To repop, rather difficult, as I've asked a couple different places if they could do it. The price would've been much higher than $200 (this was a few years ago).
-Being repop'd in steel makes sense as that's easier to do. The ones in the classifieds look like it has some welds. Just remember, steel rusts...
-I question if the repop'd ones are significantly stronger but, more importantly, IT DOESN"T MATTER! You're sleeping on them, not carrying pianos or using it as a trampoline! Anyone who has the originals knows how beefy they are and do a perfect job holding the spot up that you SLEEP on. Some marketing ploys are annoying.
They are expensive but they aren't easy to make so it's understandable. I think it's great someone stepped up and are remaking them. |
I'm gonna go on another Negative Nancy rant. I expect backlash, but hear me out. I think this is a bad repop. Granted, any product that is readily available in the Type 3 World is a good thing(sometimes). However, this is not one of those things. Originals are and will be out there. Before these repopped sleep extenders came out, the price seemed to be around $200-250. Yeah, it may have taken some time to find them, but it was do-able. Now that these repops are going for $350, it's only going to drive the price of originals up.
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Thornton
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| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
| bderewic wrote: |
| Just Talked to Schreloh..... he said they are still in prototype phase, working on making them stronger and more stable... he said there wont be sets around for sale for 2 months |
Having a pair of originals that I installed in my ride I can comment:
-They are stable. If someone found them instable then they didn't install them correctly (which would be very hard to do) or their vehicle is outta whack. The geometry is very simple.
-To repop, rather difficult, as I've asked a couple different places if they could do it. The price would've been much higher than $200 (this was a few years ago).
-Being repop'd in steel makes sense as that's easier to do. The ones in the classifieds look like it has some welds. Just remember, steel rusts...
-I question if the repop'd ones are significantly stronger but, more importantly, IT DOESN"T MATTER! You're sleeping on them, not carrying pianos or using it as a trampoline! Anyone who has the originals knows how beefy they are and do a perfect job holding the spot up that you SLEEP on. Some marketing ploys are annoying.
They are expensive but they aren't easy to make so it's understandable. I think it's great someone stepped up and are remaking them. |
I'm gonna go on another Negative Nancy rant. I expect backlash, but hear me out. I think this is a bad repop. Granted, any product that is readily available in the Type 3 World is a good thing(sometimes). However, this is not one of those things. Originals are and will be out there. Before these repopped sleep extenders came out, the price seemed to be around $200-250. Yeah, it may have taken some time to find them, but it was do-able. Now that these repops are going for $350, it's only going to drive the price of originals up. |
I agree with you 100%
Reproductions should be priced less than what originals go for
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sharkskinman
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i have had a Real set of "Camping Hinges/Sleep Extender"
and i have see what the DDB is (was) selling as a "kit"
take your seat out
on the hinges that allow it to hinge forward
and Cut A Section Width Wise out of the hinge
big enough for the pin to slid out of
(so you can just tilt and lift off)
put your front seats forward
and lay it down on the back of them
measure and Weld some metal for stands
I wouldnt minded geting DDB Stuff
and have NOTHING against them in any way
But there "Kit"
is crap
all it is
is a stand that supports the seat
and cut hinges so you can take the seat off
(plus you have the supports rattling around when not in use)
and if you could measure properly
and add (cut hinges) to the bottom of the (bottom) part of the seat
with a pair of simple Long 2 plain 3 pin hinges
and you wouldnt need a support
God i wish i had a squareback so i could just make them for people
i dont have a pic of the DDB set up
if someone does please post it
Its evident if you know what it looks like
not a bad repop
one would think with thick sheat metal /a welder/ and a pair for reference
Really dont think they would be hard to repop
My problem
is that Europeans KNOW that currency exchange is killing us
and yet
Rape us on every turn
what makes stuff in europe(most)
worth So Much Damn More
most prices would be fine
IF they were in USD
but ##!
331$
+shipping
+_4%paypal
I Mean Really
my REAL set were damn near Perfect and Complete
and i think i sold them for 2-250 or something like that
cut your hinge
bring a brick
easy
simple
worry about such things if you Really Camp ALOT In It
...thats just my wooden nickle..
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Mike Fisher
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| Thornton wrote: |
| 69SquareGuy wrote: |
| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
| bderewic wrote: |
| Just Talked to Schreloh..... he said they are still in prototype phase, working on making them stronger and more stable... he said there wont be sets around for sale for 2 months |
Having a pair of originals that I installed in my ride I can comment:
-They are stable. If someone found them instable then they didn't install them correctly (which would be very hard to do) or their vehicle is outta whack. The geometry is very simple.
-To repop, rather difficult, as I've asked a couple different places if they could do it. The price would've been much higher than $200 (this was a few years ago).
-Being repop'd in steel makes sense as that's easier to do. The ones in the classifieds look like it has some welds. Just remember, steel rusts...
-I question if the repop'd ones are significantly stronger but, more importantly, IT DOESN"T MATTER! You're sleeping on them, not carrying pianos or using it as a trampoline! Anyone who has the originals knows how beefy they are and do a perfect job holding the spot up that you SLEEP on. Some marketing ploys are annoying.
They are expensive but they aren't easy to make so it's understandable. I think it's great someone stepped up and are remaking them. |
I'm gonna go on another Negative Nancy rant. I expect backlash, but hear me out. I think this is a bad repop. Granted, any product that is readily available in the Type 3 World is a good thing(sometimes). However, this is not one of those things. Originals are and will be out there. Before these repopped sleep extenders came out, the price seemed to be around $200-250. Yeah, it may have taken some time to find them, but it was do-able. Now that these repops are going for $350, it's only going to drive the price of originals up. |
I agree with you 100%
Reproductions should be priced less than what originals go for |
Let's see You repop those RHD mats/dashes You want for less than what the originals cost! 
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Air_Cooled_Nut
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Reproductions should be priced less than what originals go for |
Or at the very least, the same price.
I got my originals for $150 and that's pretty much the price I've seen 'em sell for.
People making the repops need to make some money. My guess is they're barely breaking even. Sucks but that's how it goes when it's a little shop doing it.
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Thornton
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| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
| Thornton wrote: |
Reproductions should be priced less than what originals go for |
Or at the very least, the same price.
I got my originals for $150 and that's pretty much the price I've seen 'em sell for.
People making the repops need to make some money. My guess is they're barely breaking even. Sucks but that's how it goes when it's a little shop doing it. |
Thing about the RHD mats and dash pads is you cannot find them anywhere. I paid 350 for my perfect RHD dash pad. THere will be more camping hinges in the classifieds there there will be any RHD rubber mats
I was talking about the hinges being less than originals.
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Air_Cooled_Nut
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| Thornton wrote: |
| Air_Cooled_Nut wrote: |
| Thornton wrote: |
Reproductions should be priced less than what originals go for |
Or at the very least, the same price.
I got my originals for $150 and that's pretty much the price I've seen 'em sell for.
People making the repops need to make some money. My guess is they're barely breaking even. Sucks but that's how it goes when it's a little shop doing it. |
Thing about the RHD mats and dash pads is you cannot find them anywhere. I paid 350 for my perfect RHD dash pad. THere will be more camping hinges in the classifieds there there will be any RHD rubber mats
I was talking about the hinges being less than originals. |
I know.
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lynhaus
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I agree with the price arguments. I did tell the makers in another thread I would be interested in a set, but hell no am I going to pay 350 for these. 
I would rather pay 500 to Gerson for floor pans that I don't need at the moment than pay 350.00 for 1 pound worth of steel. 120-150 would be a good price point for these repops.
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85fastlane
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I love my extenders. Slept in my car all last summer while driving it all around western Canada. These are the OG ones right? Why would it cost so much to repop these??
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