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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Emulsion Tube Break Down.. F-7's/F-11's Reply with quote

Well, have some thing that brings my attention here to the forums.. Only reason why is that I have heard and seen multiple explanations of what the different Emulsion Tubes do, this is in regards to the F-7's and F-11's specifically...

Well I am not going to get into what I have heard in comparisons to one another of the F-7's and F-11's, but I will say I learned 4+ different ways they work and this is in contrast to one another and overlapping each others function, so, that said there is no one story that is the same, so, like to hear which does what and see verifiable facts on this info, for, like I mentioned, heard 4+ different ways they work, each doing each other function and so one, and also at different RPMs levels....

Thanks for your time and like to hear what is up with how these Emulsion Tubes work as well as opperating characteristics of them.... RB
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try the innovate forums

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Emulsion Tube Break Down.. F-7's/F-11's Reply with quote

Ok, guess it it time to do some reading, thanks for the resource Modok, you came through again appreciate it... RB

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the question is what do the emulsion tubes do, they are designed to assist with the mixture curve. That is what I recollect but it has been 30 years +/- since I tuned Webers at the track for top performance.

Books:

'Weber Carburetors - Theory, Tuning and Maintenance' by John Passini. ISBN 0-947981-67-5

or Haynes Weber book ISBN 1 85010 020 9

Here is from another thread on the subject. http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13640&start=0

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far out dude

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

modok wrote:
The problem with the general advice about e-tubes in SGKent's post, is the advice is so general it is kinda meaningless.
It can be true or false depending on how you look at it.
For instance the "smaller diameter gives acc pump type action" part, smaller diameter where? Above the step? below the step? depending on the location of the holes?
The diameter of the lower part does give an acc pump type action but only if the tube is setup for it. A f-16 tube doesen't do it at all.
Other tubes do it alot. I had trouble with richness on downshifts trying to run a skinny tube with a lot of holes near the bottom. So it depends

This chart from the innovate forum is more concrete
translation for weber people
Killbleed=holes above step
Upper bleed=holes AT the step
Lower bleed=holes below step
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2567&d=1200525005


Modoc - I aplogize for posting something that was over your head.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, ok. I will stick to posting things from books, safer that way.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: F7's vs F11's Reply with quote

In my forum search research on Weber 40 IDF jetting and set up, I notice most recommend the F7 emulssion tubes. My engine builder used F11's and my motor (2017cc in a 67' Split Window Bus) runs great.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to switch tubes in mcarbs then I went from 1874 cc to 2332,and set the float level and they work fine now.they worked fine befor but the 44's were a little harsh transfering to the main circut with small cc motor & kinda low level.& to much jet. I was used to 2 holly 830 cfm carbs on my v8 & had never seen a idf type carb. I kinda likes them now that there easy to do.just get a good book, I got the cb book, dont know witch is better , but just knowing the basic's of what does what & how&why.and there easyer than what I was used to . and if I ever do another setup for my v8 stuff it may get 4x 51's
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what the WEBER Tuning Manual says about (purpose of) emulsion tubes...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this book to be a great resource and learning guide:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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