Conntecting 4 horns in series

ctilander · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: Conntecting 4 horns in series

This is my first posting, please forgive me if there is another post on this subject.

I was wondering how to connect (4) stock horns in series. Will the existing wiring suffice? Do I need to increase the gauge of the wire? What do I need to do to accomplish this? Thank you for your comments and time.

Scarlet will appreciate it.

ragnarhairybreeks · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:09 am Post subject:

I copied the factory set up for a dual horn install, notes are here:

http://shufti.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/dual-horn-relay-and-wiring/

in parallel I might add.

It would be easy to add 4 horns using that method but I wonder what the current draw would be. Do you have any info on your horns?

alistair

edit: i forgot to add, Michael Sullivan's tdi Syncro has a mess o' horns added, looks like he used the factor relay set up as I did.
http://www.haywood-sullivan.com/vanagon/
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Ahwahnee · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:59 am Post subject:

Yes, multiple horns would be in parallel, not series but I think that is probably what you meant.

If your objective is volume (as opposed to, say, playing the opening bars of La Cucaracha) then perhaps you would be better off with one big loud horn (or a set of loud horns) rather than more stock horns.

A pair of air horns with a discordant chord can be quite effective w/o making you sound like a diesel train. Or for that matter, there are horns that sound like a diesel train.

The size wire and relay you use will depend on the horns you select and where they are located (current draw & length of the power wire.

stevey88 · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:05 am Post subject:

alistair,

I have added dual horn from a MBZ using a relay activated by the horn pad. When I saw you web page I tried to move the relay to the fuse panel but I can not find any plug that can fit the " L " socket of the fuse panel. Where did you get the plug ?
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ragnarhairybreeks · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:40 am Post subject:

Steve,
it was just "generic" 40 amp relay. The kind that you want to grab when at the wreckers.

It went into position #6 on the panel, and it was one of those "regular" relay positions... I mean the slot arrangement.

does that help?

edit: doh, I misunderstood... you mean the molex type connection part on back of panel, position "L".

I looked in wreckers, in various audi and vw cars for a plastic mutliprong connector to fit. No luck, so I used heat shrink on the female molex on end of the wires... pinched them a bit too, and plugged them in separately. yeah, its hokey, but its working. Heads up though, 2 sizes of molex used there. Years ago I snagged an Audi 5000 fuse panel with all the connections in back. None of the blocks fit the van, but the wire pigtails with the molex connectors have been useful.

alistair
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Old address still works...
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syncrodoka · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:48 am Post subject:

ragnarhairybreeks · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:52 am Post subject:

Yeah, I realized that and edited.

I looked through various cars with no luck. If you strike gold, let us know. I agree that there must be one out there somewhere.

alistair
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syncrodoka · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject:

I found the perfect connector on the back of a '92 cabriolet fuse box. It clicks into place without mods and I verified continuity to the relay position so it is electrically correct. I will get some pictures up later.

BlackDogVan · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject:

Anyone here try the Hella Super tones? For the once in a blue moon I actually use my horn I'd like less cute van & a little more HEY WAKE THE F**K UP.
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stevey88 · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject:

ragnarhairybreeks · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject:

blankmange · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject:

want to lose the 'cute' sound and make sure you're heard?

http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/products.asp?IDserie=4&uso=1&tipologia=auto
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BlackDogVan · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject:

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That kicks ass for less than $40!

GWTWTLW · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject:

markz2004 · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject:

syncrodoka · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject:

The plug doesn't look like you would expect as it isn't L spaped but there is a factory cutout for the other leg to slip into in the fuse block.

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The plug clips into place like intended

I looked into many golfs, jettas, passats and a fox and the cabriolet was the old one that had the correct plug. I don't know if it is specific to a cab or the others were just a different enough year to not have it. Happy junk yard hunting.

camerahunter · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject:

Yep, I wanna put in a crap your pants horn.
You know, one that requires them to return home immediately to change clothes.
I am not a horny kind of guy but when I really must honk the thing I want to make sure they understand what I'm saying.
If a Jet Airplane had a horn that's the one I want.

Thank you,

David
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ragnarhairybreeks · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject:

Great stuff Syncrodoka, thanks for this.

In my old '82 westy, I had this Indian horn as well as the stock horn. It makes a very obnoxious toot. I have to get it installed in my syncro.

alistair
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'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94, now gone...
https://shufti.blog/
Old address still works...
http://shufti.wordpress.com

syncrodoka · Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject:

tdwesty has a bigger bosch horn that looks similar mounted on the top of his front bumper and I am eeeenvious. It looks cool and can be heard easily.


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