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VolkDubz Samba Member

Joined: October 10, 2005 Posts: 906
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: Removable rear apron 101 |
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Everyone asks and I did before I started this how to remove your rear apron and install a new one that is removable, well I'll show you.
Everyone told me to drill out the spot welds and this and that. I just decided and I think it's the best way if your scrapping your old apron to cut it down the center and bend the metal until the spot welds pop off. It takes a little elbow grease but it's cleaner and a quick hit with the grinder will grind down the high points. (NOTE) I removed the fan shroud tin and fenders before I did any cutting to prevent slip ups.
The pictures are all the same
Red=fender bolts
Yellow=custom holes
Green=spot welds
The green are some of the spot welds that I had to pop the old apron away from. (NOTE) I did use a chisel and hammer to tap some of the weld loose, also some vise grips came in handy.
Next I decided where to drill my holes to hold on my apron, I decided to go with two holes on each side. I put both inbetween the bolt holes for the fenders.
I welded on some 8mm bolt fender inserts(Cip1.com) to screw the apron bolts into. When welding I used a C-clamp to hold on the insert. The insert is welded on the inside so the fender can bolt right up. NOTE(you will need to cut notches on your fenders to make room for the bolts holding on your new apron)
After your done fitting your rear apron on you can bolt it up.
Now stand back and look at the finished project with a smile on your face
I hope you enjoyed this. Tommorrow I hope to remove and replace my front apron. |
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Fattie I'd roll it

Joined: November 27, 2005 Posts: 5582 Location: louisiana
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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...sweet write up can't wait to see the front  _________________ Donate and help me get another aircooled dub to share with you guys www.paypal.me/WhosCare
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Bugs'n'Pugs Samba Member

Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 1453 Location: Charleston, South Carolina USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: Removable Rear Apron |
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Here are some pictures of the removable rear apron that supahaole constructed using a fiberglass rear apron from VW Inovations and Dzus fasteners:
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Bugs'n'Pugs Samba Member

Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 1453 Location: Charleston, South Carolina USA
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Fattie I'd roll it

Joined: November 27, 2005 Posts: 5582 Location: louisiana
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Removable Rear Apron |
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| Bugs'n'Pugs wrote: |
| Here are some pictures of the removable rear apron that supahaole constructed using a fiberglass rear apron from VW Inovations and Dzus fasteners: |
Where can I get those fasteners ? _________________ Donate and help me get another aircooled dub to share with you guys www.paypal.me/WhosCare |
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Norm74 Samba Member

Joined: June 19, 2006 Posts: 375 Location: NH
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Good job VolkDubz! _________________ Mama always told me not to look into the eye's of the sun
But mama, that's where the fun is..............Manfred Mann |
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bugninva Samba Member

Joined: December 14, 2004 Posts: 8857 Location: sound it out.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Removable Rear Apron |
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| j-pizzle wrote: |
| Bugs'n'Pugs wrote: |
| Here are some pictures of the removable rear apron that supahaole constructed using a fiberglass rear apron from VW Inovations and Dzus fasteners: |
Where can I get those fasteners ? |
any place that sells drag car supplies... aircooled.net, summitracing.com, jegs.com, and many others...try the vw specific suppliers first, please...most of them have a search function... search "dzus" you will only get hits if they carry them, the name is unique. _________________
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GEX has. Just sayin |
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Bugs'n'Pugs Samba Member

Joined: July 18, 2004 Posts: 1453 Location: Charleston, South Carolina USA
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DMC-12 Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2006 Posts: 817 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Clue me in.
A removable rear apron does what for us? |
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67jason Samba Member

Joined: August 28, 2005 Posts: 4741 Location: behind my back feet - Pittsburg CA
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Clue me in.
A removable rear apron does what for us? |
off the top of my head, it would make removing and installing the engine a snap. _________________ 67 bug x3
67 ghia
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pandanom Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2005 Posts: 1165 Location: Lexington, S.C.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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The VW busses have factory rear aprons and it is so much easier to remove and reinstall the engine than a bug. My bug has to be jacked high as hell to get the doghouse cooling shroud to clear. I intend to modify the bug the same way. I like those side panels Bugs & Pugs showed. _________________ It is never too late to have a happy childhood! |
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vwmaniac84 Samba Member

Joined: April 13, 2009 Posts: 17 Location: Colombia
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:00 pm Post subject: about removable |
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hi
does any one hava a page that still works, i'm rebuilding my bug and i would like to make that mod, but i have some questions like where is the bumper going to fit, and if it will be strong enaugh.
in my country people put bugs as stock cars and i like mods like thisone for my bug, can anybody help me? _________________ Resto process on the go... body restoration in process, engine later... |
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Joel Samba Member

Joined: September 04, 2006 Posts: 11099 Location: NSW Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Removable rear apron 101 |
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| VolkDubz wrote: |
I just decided and I think it's the best way if your scrapping your old apron to cut it down the center and bend the metal until the spot welds pop off.
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Being a bit destructive isn't necessary.
I got mine off without a mark on the paint except where the spot welds were drilled out.
Fits back in place and the fender bolts clamp it in position and its nice and firm.
Unless you notice that the welds have been cut through next to the seal you can't pick that anythings been modified
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gt1953 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I want one. VW should have done that at the factory level. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
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Spanky57 Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2011 Posts: 85 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I assume that those doing this are cutting the weatherstripping at the seam, so it comes off with the apron? _________________ Current car:
1973 Standard Beetle project
Past:
1971 Beetle
1968 Beetle
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Joel Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, works well.
_________________ Quick little bug, you got a Porsche motor in that?
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dasdachshund Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2010 Posts: 728 Location: Vancouver, WA USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| Spanky57 wrote: |
| I assume that those doing this are cutting the weatherstripping at the seam, so it comes off with the apron? |
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Yep, works well.
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Way to go Spank and Joel!!
When doing this, every build thread on samba seems to omit the fact that you have to do something with that INSIDE piece of the apron. It isn't just cut the spot welds on the outside and pull the apron off. I ended up dremel-ing a fine line strait down from the top most point, down through the inner seal channel. I now have a 3-piece seal, too. No problems. I dszus-ed mine like the fiberglass apron pic a few posts above.
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vwmaniac84 Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: about |
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so there's no need to remove the main frame from the chassis...
nice work man... so its just cut thru the weldings and that's it? _________________ Resto process on the go... body restoration in process, engine later... |
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tikitime Samba Member

Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 447 Location: New Westminster, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: Take off her apron! |
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Here is my version:
The rear apron was up to 1/4” thick in some areas with bondo and after removing that I found several holes where someone tried to pull out the dent with little success. Since I was going to replace the apron anyway I thought this would be an good time to make it removable. I drilled out the spot welds using a 3/8 bit in a slow drill, going slow allowed me to only drill through one layer of metal, in most cases. Then I fabricated up a crossbar to tie the fenders together, that unbolts with the rear apron. I added a couple more holes for bolting through the fenders and apron, but may only need to use the original fender bolts to secure it all together. I purchased a new rear apron from Cip1.ca without the cutouts and considering it is a fairly cheap repro I didn’t need to massage it much for fit and finish. Since then I found a new one on craigslist, cheap, with cutouts, so if I want to go back to stock I can just unbolt and switch aprons.
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Zach Thomas Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanky57 wrote: |
| I assume that those doing this are cutting the weatherstripping at the seam, so it comes off with the apron? |
Or you can go with this style of seal http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=821434  _________________ 62 Rag - a little crusty |
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