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soopaman Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: Ride Quality of lowered Type-3's |
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Hello Gang. I just aquired my very own VW 1967 type-3 fastback and I'm very excited and overly anxious to start the my resto\custom of my new girl. The question I have for you seasoned type-3 owners is, What is the quality of ride for your lowered vehicles? I'm not talking slammed in the weed lowered, but average (3 notch front, 2 rear ??). Thank you all in advance. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18050 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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1 INNER spline down on all 4 corners with 195X70X14 & 175X65X14 with inner tubes. I tried 2 splines, but lots of problems so I went back to 1 spline. 3.5" to the beam with a 1.5" forward rake. Rides/handles good and keeps up with traffic!
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Erik G Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13583 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:29 am Post subject: |
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3 splines is pretty dumped
2 splines, oil shocks, and all of the balljoints and other front end parts in good working condition, most likely will still be very nice ride
I'm getting old. My notch was 4 down, 2 or 3 in the back. It rode like crap and would swap ends in the rain because of the toe in. But I loved it all the same. Dont think I would drop my cars so low nowadays, but I also now live in one of the oldest parts of Houston, and the roads are equally old _________________ Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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eschmidt14 Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Nassau Bay, TX
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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well soopaman youre going to hear the same anwsers over and over people who like there cars in the weeds will tell you that it is not that bad of a ride and those who dont like them dropped will say just about anything too stop u from dropping it my two cents is if youre going to lower it slam it dont play with it all of my vws always on the ground and honestly it really anit that bad of a ride if you do the following new ball joints tie rod ends repak your bearings check your steering box for play if too much replace it and dont i mean dont go cheap on your shocks my notch was before i did the type 1 conv. 4 outer front 1inner/1outer in back rode real good thats was my formula for all my type3s and dont forget to cut your bump stops my notch is gone now but i have a 57 ghia which is on the ground and ill be forty in three weeks and pay attention to the road conditions dont drive like a mad man just find what works for you one good thing about a type3 is if you dont like the ride height just readjust your trailing arms that simple btw fastbacks are the best of the type 3s. thats going to spark up some comments.
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marchi Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Mine is lowered 3frt 2 rear, low profile tires and a set of 1" narrowed control arms. Rides like a dream no rubbing with the whole family. Of course still need to slow down for big bumps.
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supaninja Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2010 Posts: 4020 Location: houston
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OhHerrooo Samba Member

Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 1291 Location: Costa Mesa, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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i'm down 3 front 2 rear with 135s in front and 165s out back. i have stock shocks in front and KYB gas adjusts in back.
the ride quality is just fine, but i'm dragging my mudflaps with anybody in back. i recently bottomed out hard and hit my deep sump, so i think i may go with short axles and 195s in the rear to bring the car back up a bit. _________________ '67 Squareback
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Tram Samba Socialist

Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 23022 Location: Northwest of Normal
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Using the machine the way the engineers designed it is always by far the wisest choice.  _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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lowdowndub Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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2 in front, 1 in back. Oil shocks all the way around with 165 60R 15 front and 165 80R 15's in the rear. Rides really nice.
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MLTIGGER2 Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1154 Location: Fort Wayne, In
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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What's the difference between lowering with inner or outer splines?
And if a car is lowered and you want to raise it a bit, how do you know which splines to mess with? _________________ 1968 Squareback
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supaninja Samba Member

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Erik G Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13583 Location: Tejas!
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nerfer Samba Member

Joined: July 09, 2010 Posts: 508 Location: Chicagoland
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Ride Quality of lowered Type-3's |
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| soopaman wrote: |
Hello Gang. I just aquired my very own VW 1967 type-3 fastback and I'm very excited and overly anxious to start the my resto\custom of my new girl. The question I have for you seasoned type-3 owners is, What is the quality of ride for your lowered vehicles? I'm not talking slammed in the weed lowered, but average (3 notch front, 2 rear ??). Thank you all in advance. |
'67 is probably the best year in my mind. Comes with 12V and an early, no external fuel door and wrap-around blinkers. Apparently people don't like the FI, so it commands a little higher price because of it.
I wanted a '67 but was looking around for awhile in the days before Samba, and saw a nice '68 fastback for a reasonable price, so I jumped on it. _________________ A '68 fastback owner, and maybe a driver |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18050 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hahahahaha, Mike one outer notch all around isn't lowered dude.
I'm as low as marchi, monroes in front, and Gr2's in back. The front is a little stiff, but it's not a bad ride at all. |
I meant to type 1 INNER spline, which is about 2" + the shorter tires. _________________ 69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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MLTIGGER2 Samba Member
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| Tig, I am pretty sure yours is 2 inner. If you raise it 1 outer, I think you will be happy. You can use combinations too, like up one inner, and down one outer |
Thanks, and did you know the latest edition of Hot VW's has a thank you to you _________________ 1968 Squareback
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vlad01 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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2 splines all round. rear handles good, front handles like a POS.
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soopaman Samba Member
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Thank you to all who responded. I'm just curious about the suspension setup I would like to run. I would like it to have a nice rake and stance, but I don't want to have to replace my kidneys before end of year . I'm very interested in those dropped spindles by Bert3 I've been reading about. Anyone running those? What are they like? What do they cost? Thanks again. |
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VWporscheGT3 Samba Member
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2 in front, 1 in back. Oil shocks all the way around with 165 60R 15 front and 165 80R 15's in the rear. Rides really nice.
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thats TRUCKEE!! nice mountain bike too, going to northstar ? wait now that i look at it im not convinced it is..... nevermind!  _________________ If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line. |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22681 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh the science of lowering. I rember when I was in that class. The girls, booze and parties. Seems like yesterday. Then you grow up and get correct. See even the old asses were young and reckless once
2 in the front and rear on 195-50-15s
Same here on 195-50s front and 165s rear.
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vlad01 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| soopaman wrote: |
Thank you to all who responded. I'm just curious about the suspension setup I would like to run. I would like it to have a nice rake and stance, but I don't want to have to replace my kidneys before end of year . I'm very interested in those dropped spindles by Bert3 I've been reading about. Anyone running those? What are they like? What do they cost? Thanks again. |
not sure on your price but I will be paying $770 AU for them. |
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