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Im hoping you can help me with this:
My setup:
Fuel injected 1600 block & heads.
DVDA distributor timed to 7.5 BTDC.
Electric fuel pump, and holley style regulator. I do not know my fuel pressure as the regulator or gauge doesnt work. The gauge always reads under 1psi.
New plugs, points, cap, rotor, and wires.
New fresh 91 octane gas.
When I watch the timing, it has a nice jump right off idle, so the vacuum advance seems to work fine.
Ok, so here's the problem.
I have some 2nd hand Kaddieshack kadrons the previous owner said were jetted for a 1600 and look brand new.
It is a bit hard to start, but idles beautifully.
It was running rich (black smoke) when I would pump the throttle (no load) so I backed off the accelerator pump nuts. It stopped blowing black smoke after that.
But both before and after, it runs pretty terrible under load.
It is fine with very little throttle. It actually seems to run pretty well at full throttle once I get the rpms up.
But that middle area, around 1/3 - 2/3 throttle it runs like complete crap. It falls on its face and it actually will sound like someone cut the engine, and start decelerating at about 1/2 throttle. Any less and it picks up, and more and it picks up.
Any ideas what might be going on?
Oh, and one more unrelated question: My clutch disengages very high on the pedal. That means I need to turn the adjusting wing-nut in, right?
Sorry for the newbness... Havent owned a VW in over 6 years, and I tend to forget things.
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a friend of mine ran into the same thing . that your kadrons are doing .i will make a long story short . he ended up haveing to put a second set of kadron carbs on his motor . and they work great. after tryed every thing to make the first set of kadrons run right . he thinks that there was something wrong with idle system because it would run like crap from 35mph to 45 mph above that it ran great . he allso went through 3 dizys a mallory a 010 and a 009 . they all ran the same no differnts . he changed jets i will say one thing you must fix your pressure reg. and find out how much fuel pressure your realy running .allso what type of dizy are you running ?? it sounds like your running a stock dizy that was on a 1971 and up vw because you said you plugged the retard side of the dizy i dont think its the right dizy to be running with a set of kadrons . most guys are running the auto stick dizy with the single vac. port . i hate to say this to you i think you bought some ones problem . when you bought the used kadrons .you said they looked brand new . red flag in my book and .why did the first owner of the kadrons sell them. you have to ask your self that . buyer beware when buying used carbs .i hope some one can help you on samba just my two cents spencerfvee
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Im hoping you can help me with this:
My setup:
Fuel injected 1600 block & heads.
DVDA distributor timed to 7.5 BTDC. Retard port blocked off.
Electric fuel pump, and holley style regulator. I do not know my fuel pressure as the regulator or gauge doesnt work. The gauge always reads under 1psi.
New plugs, points, cap, rotor, and wires.
New fresh 91 octane gas.
When I watch the timing, it has a nice jump right off idle, so the vacuum advance seems to work fine.
Ok, so here's the problem.
I have some 2nd hand Kaddieshack kadrons the previous owner said were jetted for a 1600 and look brand new.
It is a bit hard to start, but idles beautifully.
It was running rich (black smoke) when I would pump the throttle (no load) so I backed off the accelerator pump nuts. It stopped blowing black smoke after that.
But both before and after, it runs pretty terrible under load.
It is fine with very little throttle. It actually seems to run pretty well at full throttle once I get the rpms up.
But that middle area, around 1/3 - 2/3 throttle it runs like complete crap. It falls on its face and it actually will sound like someone cut the engine, and start decelerating at about 1/2 throttle. Any less and it picks up, and more and it picks up.
Any ideas what might be going on?
Oh, and an disengages very high on the pedal, that means I need to turn the adjusting wing-nut in, right?
Sorry for the newbness... Havent owned a VW in over 6 years, and I tend to forget things. |
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DrummerDaveB
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron Setup problems |
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| a friend of mine ran into the same thing . that your kadrons are doing .i will make a long story short . he ended up haveing to put a second set of kadron carbs on his motor . and they work great. after tryed every thing to make the first set of kadrons run right . he thinks that there was something wrong with idle system because it would run like crap from 35mph to 45 mph above that it ran great . he allso went through 3 dizys a mallory a 010 and a 009 . they all ran the same no differnts . he changed jets i will say one thing you must fix your pressure reg. and find out how much fuel pressure your realy running .allso what type of dizy are you running ?? it sounds like your running a stock dizy that was on a 1971 and up vw because you said you plugged the retard side of the dizy i dont think its the right dizy to be running with a set of kadrons . most guys are running the auto stick dizy with the single vac. port . i hate to say this to you i think you bought some ones problem . when you bought the used kadrons .you said they looked brand new . red flag in my book and .why did the first owner of the kadrons sell them. you have to ask your self that . buyer beware when buying used carbs .i hope some one can help you on samba just my two cents spencerfvee |
Im hoping that isnt the case.
As for the DVDA, it's the stock from a 79. My understanding (which is apt to be completely wrong) is that, although not quite as good as a standard 034 SVDA, the DVDA with the retard port plugged is pretty similar as regards the advance curve.
The PO said he used them for a month (maybe had the same setup issues as me, who knows) and went back to stock. I dont see anything on them that leads me to believe otherwise.
I did work on them some more today.
I realized the intake manifolds were backward, so I fixed that.
Readjusted the idle mixture, Re-synched the linkage (I hope I got that right). I adjusted it so if turned either direction (in or out) it would raise the idle. I believe that means the (SCAT) linkage is in sync.
Anyway, I did find the vacuum line had split and come off the carb, so I replaced it w/ new rubber.
All in all it didnt make much difference. It runs a "LITTLE" better, but still has a big dead spot.
When test driving it, I then proceeded to run out of gas and push it a quarter mile back home. 
The accelerator pumps both squirt. I dont have a way to measure the CCs, but they do both squirt correctly. I have them turned out as much as I can and still squirt, so I think Im going to try turning them in bit by bit and see if it improves.. . . unless you guys have any other suggestions.
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you should NOT plug the retard port, leave it open.
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I realized the intake manifolds were backward, so I fixed that.
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Dont know how old yours are, but on all 3 sets of mine, the intakes can be installed either side - its just that the manifold port will be in the front or back. I have mine on the back so its easier to connect the manometer that I use to synch.
OK - what idle jets are you running? The number is on the jet. As far as synching - do it correctly - makes a world of difference. Have you checked for vacuum leaks? Is the vacuum advance working correctly? What are you timed at? Full advance with vac port plugged should be 28-30, which will put you are 8-10 at idle.
Take it one step at a time - but until the carbs are properly synched, it will be a dog. Just for curiosity sake, do both of your idle mix screws make a difference? If not, that's a symptom of bad synch.
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I would shoot Jeff an email at the KaddieShack. Also check out his website, he has ALOT of tuning info there. I have a set on mine and I'm happy as hell with em 
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i feal for you . i have been where your at many times in life .i allways work things out lol one thing that i thought about .is when you said you ran out of gas . have you checked your gas tank to see if it has dirt in it. when you let the tank get low on gas .all the junk in the bottom of the tank kind of comes lose and gets in the fuel line to your carbs . second here in ohio theres a lot of bad gas being sold sometimes with water in the gas .was your gas old gas or new gas ? allso never belive any one on jetting . you must check to see what jets are in the carbs . to big a main jet will make a carb run like shit. to small a jet will make a carb run like shit . make sure what jets are in your carbs . a 40 kadron should have a 130 or 135 main jets your idle jet should be a 55 to big a idle jet will make your carbs run like crap . allso make sure some one has not drilled the jets out bigger . i have run into this a lot on carbs drilled out jets . and your kadron should have 28 venturas. make sure that the venturas have not been opened up bigger . allso when you have the top of the carb off make sure there no dirt or junk in the bottom of the bowl .i have seen this befor dirt gets in the main jet and then .carbs run like crap .make sure the floats are good .i have seen the floats break apart .allso check the the filter that comes with the carbs. i have seen them full of junk . what i am trying to tell you is check out the carbs like your rebuilding them . i helped a friend today his kadrons were running like crap . we found dirt in the filters and dirt on the bottom of the carb bowl we allso found a crack in the plastic spacer that goes between the carb body and the carb base throttle assembly . it messed up the idle big time and made the carb run with a miss good luck i hope every thing works out for you . hang in there you will get them running spencerfvee............................................................................................................
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| spencerfvee wrote: |
| a friend of mine ran into the same thing . that your kadrons are doing .i will make a long story short . he ended up haveing to put a second set of kadron carbs on his motor . and they work great. after tryed every thing to make the first set of kadrons run right . he thinks that there was something wrong with idle system because it would run like crap from 35mph to 45 mph above that it ran great . he allso went through 3 dizys a mallory a 010 and a 009 . they all ran the same no differnts . he changed jets i will say one thing you must fix your pressure reg. and find out how much fuel pressure your realy running .allso what type of dizy are you running ?? it sounds like your running a stock dizy that was on a 1971 and up vw because you said you plugged the retard side of the dizy i dont think its the right dizy to be running with a set of kadrons . most guys are running the auto stick dizy with the single vac. port . i hate to say this to you i think you bought some ones problem . when you bought the used kadrons .you said they looked brand new . red flag in my book and .why did the first owner of the kadrons sell them. you have to ask your self that . buyer beware when buying used carbs .i hope some one can help you on samba just my two cents spencerfvee |
Im hoping that isnt the case.
As for the DVDA, it's the stock from a 79. My understanding (which is apt to be completely wrong) is that, although not quite as good as a standard 034 SVDA, the DVDA with the retard port plugged is pretty similar as regards the advance curve.
The PO said he used them for a month (maybe had the same setup issues as me, who knows) and went back to stock. I dont see anything on them that leads me to believe otherwise.
I did work on them some more today.
I realized the intake manifolds were backward, so I fixed that.
Readjusted the idle mixture, Re-synched the linkage (I hope I got that right). I adjusted it so if turned either direction (in or out) it would raise the idle. I believe that means the (SCAT) linkage is in sync.
Anyway, I did find the vacuum line had split and come off the carb, so I replaced it w/ new rubber.
All in all it didnt make much difference. It runs a "LITTLE" better, but still has a big dead spot.
When test driving it, I then proceeded to run out of gas and push it a quarter mile back home.
The accelerator pumps both squirt. I dont have a way to measure the CCs, but they do both squirt correctly. I have them turned out as much as I can and still squirt, so I think Im going to try turning them in bit by bit and see if it improves.. . . unless you guys have any other suggestions. |
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I realized the intake manifolds were backward, so I fixed that.
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Dont know how old yours are, but on all 3 sets of mine, the intakes can be installed either side - its just that the manifold port will be in the front or back. I have mine on the back so its easier to connect the manometer that I use to synch.
OK - what idle jets are you running? The number is on the jet. As far as synching - do it correctly - makes a world of difference. Have you checked for vacuum leaks? Is the vacuum advance working correctly? What are you timed at? Full advance with vac port plugged should be 28-30, which will put you are 8-10 at idle.
Take it one step at a time - but until the carbs are properly synched, it will be a dog. Just for curiosity sake, do both of your idle mix screws make a difference? If not, that's a symptom of bad synch. |
They were installed with the vacuum port on the front, but that interfered with the heim joint on the right carb, when trying to go to WOT.
I dont know what size Jets... Kaddieshack removes the sizes because they dont want you to know what they are.
I havent looked for leaks because it doesnt really act like there are leaks. I dont know my full advance (stock pulley w/ only 0 and 7.5 marks.
Both kdle mix screws do make a difference.
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Oh, I thought you were supposed to cap it.
I'll take that off.
Thanks!
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| Is there something wrong with the fuel pressure? You mentioned in your first post the gauge always reads under 1 psi...I thought the kaddies need a minimum of 3 or 3.5 psi? I know you mentioned the regulator or the gauge do not work but could this possibly be part of the problem? |
It is possible, but only if the fuel pressure is too high (except if you drain the float bowls because the pressure is too low, but that doesnt seem to be the issue either).
They should have 1.5 to 2 psi max. But I've screwed the regulator way out, and it doesnt seem to have an affect on the way it runs, so I dont THINK that is my issue.
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| i feal for you . i have been where your at many times in life .i allways work things out lol one thing that i thought about .is when you said you ran out of gas . have you checked your gas tank to see if it has dirt in it. when you let the tank get low on gas .all the junk in the bottom of the tank kind of comes lose and gets in the fuel line to your carbs . second here in ohio theres a lot of bad gas being sold sometimes with water in the gas .was your gas old gas or new gas ? allso never belive any one on jetting . you must check to see what jets are in the carbs . to big a main jet will make a carb run like shit. to small a jet will make a carb run like shit . make sure what jets are in your carbs . a 40 kadron should have a 130 or 135 main jets your idle jet should be a 55 to big a idle jet will make your carbs run like crap . allso make sure some one has not drilled the jets out bigger . i have run into this a lot on carbs drilled out jets . and your kadron should have 28 venturas. make sure that the venturas have not been opened up bigger . allso when you have the top of the carb off make sure there no dirt or junk in the bottom of the bowl .i have seen this befor dirt gets in the main jet and then .carbs run like crap .make sure the floats are good .i have seen the floats break apart .allso check the the filter that comes with the carbs. i have seen them full of junk . what i am trying to tell you is check out the carbs like your rebuilding them . i helped a friend today his kadrons were running like crap . we found dirt in the filters and dirt on the bottom of the carb bowl we allso found a crack in the plastic spacer that goes between the carb body and the carb base throttle assembly . it messed up the idle big time and made the carb run with a miss good luck i hope every thing works out for you . hang in there you will get them running spencerfvee............................................................................................................ |
Again, kaddieshack carbs dont have the jet sizes on them, so I dont know what jets. I assume Jeff would know what they should be, but ...
I guess I'll pull them apart and check the insides out.
The tank has a brand new fuel filter installed just before the electric pump under the tank, so probably not junk in the gas. It should be ok gas. It is the same stuff I put in my daily driver honda every week.
I guess I should also buy a set of idle and main jets and see if that makes a difference.
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i understand about the jets not being marked right . on the gas i have gotten bad gas that had a lot of dirt in it .i went through 4 in line filters befor i got rid of the dirt .i had to take my fuel reg apart and clean the dirt out of the fuel reg. dirt will make your fuel gauge stop working . something to check out you can allso by pass the fuel reg. to see how the carbs work . i dont know what kind of fuel pump your running . if it puts out 3 to 5 lbs your ok but if your running the vw fuel pump that came with your fuel injected bug then its way to much fuel pressure .i would get a new fuel pump that puts out a lower fuel pressure . allso i dont know what kind of fuel reg. your useing but the cheap fuel regs dont work that great . like the round fuel regs that have a dial on top of them and the fuel regs EMPI sells dont do a good job . just trying to help you out spencerfvee
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| spencerfvee wrote: |
| i feal for you . i have been where your at many times in life .i allways work things out lol one thing that i thought about .is when you said you ran out of gas . have you checked your gas tank to see if it has dirt in it. when you let the tank get low on gas .all the junk in the bottom of the tank kind of comes lose and gets in the fuel line to your carbs . second here in ohio theres a lot of bad gas being sold sometimes with water in the gas .was your gas old gas or new gas ? allso never belive any one on jetting . you must check to see what jets are in the carbs . to big a main jet will make a carb run like shit. to small a jet will make a carb run like shit . make sure what jets are in your carbs . a 40 kadron should have a 130 or 135 main jets your idle jet should be a 55 to big a idle jet will make your carbs run like crap . allso make sure some one has not drilled the jets out bigger . i have run into this a lot on carbs drilled out jets . and your kadron should have 28 venturas. make sure that the venturas have not been opened up bigger . allso when you have the top of the carb off make sure there no dirt or junk in the bottom of the bowl .i have seen this befor dirt gets in the main jet and then .carbs run like crap .make sure the floats are good .i have seen the floats break apart .allso check the the filter that comes with the carbs. i have seen them full of junk . what i am trying to tell you is check out the carbs like your rebuilding them . i helped a friend today his kadrons were running like crap . we found dirt in the filters and dirt on the bottom of the carb bowl we allso found a crack in the plastic spacer that goes between the carb body and the carb base throttle assembly . it messed up the idle big time and made the carb run with a miss good luck i hope every thing works out for you . hang in there you will get them running spencerfvee............................................................................................................ |
Again, kaddieshack carbs dont have the jet sizes on them, so I dont know what jets. I assume Jeff would know what they should be, but ...
I guess I'll pull them apart and check the insides out.
The tank has a brand new fuel filter installed just before the electric pump under the tank, so probably not junk in the gas. It should be ok gas. It is the same stuff I put in my daily driver honda every week.
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| i understand about the jets not being marked right . on the gas i have gotten bad gas that had a lot of dirt in it .i went through 4 in line filters befor i got rid of the dirt .i had to take my fuel reg apart and clean the dirt out of the fuel reg. dirt will make your fuel gauge stop working . something to check out you can allso by pass the fuel reg. to see how the carbs work . i dont know what kind of fuel pump your running . if it puts out 3 to 5 lbs your ok but if your running the vw fuel pump that came with your fuel injected bug then its way to much fuel pressure .i would get a new fuel pump that puts out a lower fuel pressure . allso i dont know what kind of fuel reg. your useing but the cheap fuel regs dont work that great . like the round fuel regs that have a dial on top of them and the fuel regs EMPI sells dont do a good job . just trying to help you out spencerfvee |
The pump is a Carter low pressure pump [Brand new]. IIRC the specs say a max of like 4psi.
The regulator is a Holley style reg [Brand new].
The Gauge is a brand new Mr Gasket brand I got from Pep Boys.
I guess I'll take those off and try to clean them out somehow too.
Thx for the help.
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I dont know what size Jets... Kaddieshack removes the sizes because they dont want you to know what they are.
I havent looked for leaks because it doesnt really act like there are leaks. I dont know my full advance (stock pulley w/ only 0 and 7.5 marks.
Both kdle mix screws do make a difference.
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Removing the jet size thing really scalds me - AJ Simms does the same thing and if they would even stamp them with a code so they would know what they are would be a little better. I personally dont feel like sending a set back, wait and week for the new ones, try that send them back again. Total bull&%&^ IMHO.
Check for a leak anyway - you never know.
Do a search and there are degree wheel templates available FREE online that you can mark various timing points so you are not flying blind. You NEED to know what your timing is and if the distributor is working correctly.
Good on the idle mix - - but I would still suggest synching them with a snail or better yet a manometer.
And yeah - if you run the balance tube you can have clearance issues - I dont - and when I am synched, I install a brass plug in the manifold.
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I dont know what size Jets... Kaddieshack removes the sizes because they dont want you to know what they are.
I havent looked for leaks because it doesnt really act like there are leaks. I dont know my full advance (stock pulley w/ only 0 and 7.5 marks.
Both kdle mix screws do make a difference.
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Removing the jet size thing really scalds me - AJ Simms does the same thing and if they would even stamp them with a code so they would know what they are would be a little better. I personally dont feel like sending a set back, wait and week for the new ones, try that send them back again. Total bull&%&^ IMHO.
Check for a leak anyway - you never know.
Do a search and there are degree wheel templates available FREE online that you can mark various timing points so you are not flying blind. You NEED to know what your timing is and if the distributor is working correctly.
Good on the idle mix - - but I would still suggest synching them with a snail or better yet a manometer.
And yeah - if you run the balance tube you can have clearance issues - I dont - and when I am synched, I install a brass plug in the manifold. |
I printed out one of those degree wheel templates, so maybe tonight I can get it marked and let you guys know what my full advance is.
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anyone that sends us an unknown jet, I'll measure it so you can order the ones you need, without the BS.
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DrummerDaveB
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Joined: March 25, 2005
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Location: Louisville, KY Area
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| anyone that sends us an unknown jet, I'll measure it so you can order the ones you need, without the BS. |
I'll come see you when I figure out if its jets I need.
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DrummerDaveB
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Location: Louisville, KY Area
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Ok, I printed out a degree wheel, but it was a little small so I kindof had to guess, but with my vacuum advance hooked up, I was pulling close to 40 degrees max advance.
Again, at idle it's roughly 7.5
At max, the timing seemed a little inconsistent [jumpy], but not terribly so.
Still, it runs pretty decent at WOT at higher rpms, so Im guessing it isnt that.
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andk5591
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Location: State College, PA
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And with vac disconnect at around 3500 RPMS, you are around 28-30, correct?
I would do 2 things - pull one or both of your air cleaners - and rev it up to 1/2-3/4 throttle and see if there is fuel coming from the accel pump nozzles. If there is, see this http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=398526&highlight=kad+accelerator+pump
Ok - now, assuming you are dumping fuel from the accel pumps, I suspect a clog in your main jet circuit - I would pull the carbs and clean them - At least - remove and clean the jets and blow through the passages well. This may be whats wrong - just some crap in there.
And while you are at it - try to measure the jet size - they should be around 132 ish - if they are way different, get some jets from John or someplace that can get you close for your combination.
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