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zadieman Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: Mahle pistons |
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| Sorry to have to put this here, but nothing on a search and knew you guys would be able to help out. I am going to have a stock rebuild done of my 1600 FI engine. I have one company with stock 85.5 Mahle pistons rings and barrels for only 150?? I see others getting closer to 300 for this set. What could be different?? I am scared to pull the trigger and get the wrong parts. Thanks |
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DarthWeber Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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$150 = cast, like the pistons that came from VW.
$300 = probably forged pistons. _________________
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jfats808 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I rebuilt a FI engine for a customer up the road from me using AA's. AA's are fine for a stock rebuild if your on a budget. Shes been driving it for over a year now. You dont need forged pistons for yours if its all stock. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23947 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I would rather have the aa pistons than the steel skirted mahle ones. |
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D/A/N Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| I would rather have the aa pistons than the steel skirted mahle ones. |
Why so? |
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zadieman Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Now even more confused. Are there two different levels of Mahle piston sets??? Is there a different part number for the steel skirted ones that you are talking about?? They have AA pistons, but they are even less than the Mahle's. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| I would rather have the aa pistons than the steel skirted mahle ones. |
What are you talking about, the little tabs on the inside? That's not exactly the piston skirt... _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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mark tucker Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| whell where exzactly is it??? splain that. and aluminum & aluminum have the same expansion rates too dont they.the mahles cost more because there hard to get and they price gos up, Iv seen these cast mahles being sold as forged, there not.to me there junk.do they work? yes they will .are they coated as days gone by . no. are the aa's coated? all that I have seen are, but I havent seen the 85 or 87's. I have seen way tomany cracked pistons with the steel strap skirts. |
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kubelguy Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard the Mahle pistons are supplied by AA. Too bad there isn't a stock set made in U.S.A. |
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zadieman Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Now you guys have me even more confused.Are there correct part numbers for the correct mahle 85.5 pistons, cylinders and rings that will be the best for my stock rebuild!!!! |
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kubelguy Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you call the tech guys at cip1.com they are VERY helpful.
Ask for all the choices , ask their opinions. It's fast and easy. |
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Mahle-Piston-Cylinder-Set-85-5mm-x-69mm-Cast-p/311-198-069fma.htm
genuine Mahle 85.5s are excellent P&Cs.
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| Now you guys have me even more confused.Are there correct part numbers for the correct mahle 85.5 pistons, cylinders and rings that will be the best for my stock rebuild!!!! |
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mark tucker Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| well the set I got a month ago,(cust brought to me) looked like poop and were more than 10 grams appart, ended up getting another set to make 1 set close enough to balance. the wristpin bore had a big chamfer on some and a slight one on 1 side of 2. |
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kubelguy Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| well the set I got a month ago,(cust brought to me) looked like poop and were more than 10 grams appart, ended up getting another set to make 1 set close enough to balance. the wristpin bore had a big chamfer on some and a slight one on 1 side of 2. |
What set of pistons were they? |
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mark tucker Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| 87 mahles.cast. I dont think aa is suppling mahle, although mahle has a new facilty in china.(so I have read from something mahle put out) |
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MURZI Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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On the 2110 I just did the pistons were 9 grams apart as well...mahle forged 90.5 B's. Waaaaaay off. _________________ 62 vert
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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there is a big price increase coming soon on the Mahle Cast 85.5s...... _________________ It's just advice, do whatever you want with it!
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mark tucker Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| I think he paid 2x as much for these cast ones as he should of,and were told they were forged.I would be happy to use a better aa piston over the steel struted brazilla ones.wish I would of put 90.5,s in it.but that dog wont hunt. |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| mark tucker wrote: |
| To me, they are junk. Do they work? Yes, they will. Are they coated as days gone by? No. I have seen way too many cracked pistons with the steel strap skirts. |
FFS- it took me 10 minutes to fix just that one line, learn how to type man!
Stop blaming pistons for your lack of tuning acumen, I've been boosting them for over 3 years now without a single issue. If you're blowing them up, you're running it wrong. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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most people on boost make the mistake of running too much timing, and run too rich too. _________________ It's just advice, do whatever you want with it!
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