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fiveohnick
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 Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: VW horsepower levels explained |
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Please share your descriptions of VW air cooled horsepower. Feel free to use words like insane, total insanity, traction problems, drag race only. Also describe your motor if you want. Help us folk decide if we need 140hp or 220hp for our next motor.
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100HP) Fun to drive and good power on the hwy….. |
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Glenn 
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How fast can you afford?
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vugbug68
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ahh!!! another one lol, see this thread first... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=414003
basically figure out your vehicles weight, then figure out your power, then figure out if its safe to drive on the road 
here is mine: 1700 lbs + 125 hp + disc brakes and suspension mods = awesome car on twisty roads. I also have driven it all over california and highway 1 a number of times
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vwracerdave
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Anthing more then 90 HP on a street legal Bug is just plain showing off.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| vwracerdave wrote: |
| Anthing more then 90 HP on a street legal Bug is just plain showing off. |
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slalombuggy
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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1100lb car. Anything less than 150 is just boring. Anything more than 200 is insanity. People say I'm a little touched 
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mark tucker
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| whats the limit of your american in distress card?just remember with power comes another set of problems(other than the wife).the list is endless.but what the hell it's all in fun, Go for it!!! |
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miniman82
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| vwracerdave wrote: |
| Anthing more then 90 HP on a street legal Bug is just plain showing off. |
Is that you talking, or the ghost of Gene?
90 is nothing, any well sorted 1776 should be able to put that down. I'm happy for the time being with the 150whp my 1915 turbo puts down, but it won't be long till I'm seeking more. I figure that based on where I'm at now, 220-230hp is what I'm after in the end. Any more than that gets uncontrollable without expensive chassis mods.
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MURZI
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140 hp is doable and fun if you hide receipts and have packages delivered to friends houses.........220hp...that is divorce right there... 
160-170 hp will put you in the low 13's....
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j8bug
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| Funny stuff thruout this thread:lol: |
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ErcseRacing
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| vwracerdave wrote: |
| Anthing more then 90 HP on a street legal Bug is just plain showing off. |
LOL |
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miniman82
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| MURZI wrote: |
| 140 hp is doable and fun if you hide receipts and have packages delivered to friends houses.........220hp...that is divorce right there... |
That's why I built it before we got hitched.
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Boolean
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Going uphill with a stock bug, the gears are just a mechanical way of changing engine pitch and sound pressure. Nothing else happends.
At 70 hp there is light at the end of the tunnel.
100 hp is seriously quick at redlights.
150 hp and up is better than sex. |
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66brm
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Going uphill with a stock bug, the gears are just a mechanical way of changing engine pitch and sound pressure. Nothing else happends.
At 70 hp there is light at the end of the tunnel.
100 hp is seriously quick at redlights.
150 hp and up is better than sex. |
200 is better than a warm.........
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Alstrup
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Heeh ! Aggree.
I use to lay it down like this:
65-70 hp. All beetles should have had that from new.
100hp. Gets you a nice nippy beetle.
125-150 hp. Modern cars, beware.
150-180 hp. You need to know what youre doing.
180 - 240 hp. Takes a skilled driver to handle.
240 + Show off
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fiveohnick
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Alstrup wrote: |
Heeh ! Aggree.
I use to lay it down like this:
65-70 hp. All beetles should have had that from new.
100hp. Gets you a nice nippy beetle.
125-150 hp. Modern cars, beware.
150-180 hp. You need to know what youre doing.
180 - 240 hp. Takes a skilled driver to handle.
240 + Show off
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Great answer! Lets here more like this! |
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Stripped66
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:37 am Post subject: |
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65-70 hp. It will leave you wanting more.
100hp. It will leave you wanting more.
125-150 hp. It will leave you wanting more.
150-180 hp. It will leave you wanting more.
180 - 240 hp. It will leave you wanting more.
240 + It will leave you wanting more.
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I don't think electrickery works that way |
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Chip
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with Stripped...260whp was fun. 350 will be more fun |
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VWporscheGT3
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65-70 perfect daily commuter
100-120 Fun... you'll soon be asking for more
150-170 Perfect for a well sorted chassis in the twistys (who wants to go in a straight line anyways..... get that V8 out of your head)
180-200+ forget it , your only putting it on a trailer to get it to the drag strip
just my opinion...
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mark tucker
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it's all good clean fun till somebody gets thier eye poked out.
I like the strawbearry muffens.
there is never enough horse power, but having what you need at the moment is what counts. |
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