Van Cafe Billet shift elbow noise?

jayhauss

Just replaced the last two components to my shift linkage that were worn. Now I am able to hear noise transmitting through the linkage up to the shift knob. I have been tinkering with adjustments but can't seem to stop the noise.
Do billet shift elbows transmit more noise than the originals?

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0to60in6min · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:11 am Post subject:

I think so. After replacing the whole set up - front and rear - I have a noise when I am on 2nd gear - the noise is similar to as if I hold the shifter against on one side. No noise on any other gear.
I search and adjust but the noise still there. So I think the rear aluminum shift linkage transmits some resonance noise.

jayhauss · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:23 am Post subject:

Yes, that is very similar to my noise if not exactly the same. I have tried to adjust the linkage so there is no tension on the selector shaft but the noise just won't go away. My main concern is to much tension that may cause excessive wear to transmission components.

0to60in6min · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:44 am Post subject:

I brought mine to a well known vanagon mechanic and after looking at it and adjusting and checking he said there will be no excessive wear because there's no tension applied to the transmission... except the brief annoying noise in 2nd of course...

solution? take that piece out and replace with an OEM one...(or a good used one)..

insyncro · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:53 am Post subject:

Try an see if you can make small adjustments to the pictured bracket by loosening all four of the bolts to just slightly hand tight...get some of the pressure off the union and the noise will lessen.

I have also spray wax coated the inner cavity of the shift linkage tubes with great success.
Dampens sound.
Get crazy and foam all the inners and see if that lessens it even more.

0to60in6min · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject:

it's a good idea from Insyncro and since revisiting my old problem I have another idea which I may try..

painting the outside of the shift elbow with a thick coat of Plasti Dip.. it may help even more.... and since I have a can in the garage I will try it.

http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip

Pascal

kuleinc · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject:

They are.
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rubbachicken · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:12 pm Post subject:

when i am under a van looking at the plastic bushings on the shift rods, i am thinking it might we worth putting a zerk fitting in there, to pump grease in there, i grease the linkage, and it all seems to get moved away rather lubricating the joint
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chimivee · Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:39 pm Post subject:

I replaced everything BUT the selector lever/socket pictured above (shifter base, shift rod bushings, trans lever/ball, etc) and have had a vibration in the shifter ever since. It's very subtle - more of a "whirring" noise. If I place finger tip pressure on the shift knob it goes away.
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Pascal · Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject:

kuleinc · Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject:

I just had my shifter out due to the engine and trans being out, and I had those same new HARD bushings to go in, I didn't bother, yet. The stock ones are more rubber, those white ones are more like plastic.
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boof1306 · Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject:

Shouldn't there be bellows on that nylon bush? Not only do they keep the grease in they also sandwich that nylon bush in place which will help stop vibrations. P/No 251 711 167F

BillM · Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:46 am Post subject:

purplepeopleeater · Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:32 am Post subject:

I had the billet ball and cup, but at the same time I switched to the hard bushing mount (ie my OE one had two boots and a soft rubber) and noise was quite a bit louder, this is even after adjusting the shifter to bently specs.

when I replaced my trans this year I switched back to the OE ball and cup and it was quite a bit better.

I still have the hard bushing though, both the boots and soft bushing are now available at vancafe, I plan on getting these.

Its hard to say if new tranny improved noise or the ball and cup.

0to60in6min · Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:19 am Post subject:

hit the aluminum billet ball and cup with a screw driver and do the same on the OEM one... you will hear different sound... the OEM was made with different material and there's almost no noise...

Robw_z · Samba Member Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 997

Thinking aloud... I've often thought of clamping a rubber counterbalance somewhere along the long shift rod, might reduce vibration through much or some of the spectrum. I've noticed on some new cars the motor mounts have what looks like a thick rubber molded finger with a ball on the end sticking out of them, not sure the purpose exactly but it looks like its there to "waste" some of the vibration.

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chimivee · Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject:

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