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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: Throttle shaft vacuum leaks - cheap fix |
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Have had issue with high idle due to worn throttle shaft vacuum leak. Replacing carb, not affordable if desireable. Being a cheap bastard, I used what Had on hand. I found that a 3 mL syringe outer housing to be a good fit in the carb housing. It was not a tight enough fit on the shaft. I took some waxed thread from my leather work kit and wrapped the shaft to provide a tight fit in the plastic. Since the wax thread seals on itself, it has provided a good seal on the shaft. She idles right nicely now.
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vwkirb Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2007 Posts: 812 Location: Athens, GA
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vwkirb Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2007 Posts: 812 Location: Athens, GA
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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| With a vacuum on the inside it should not see at best a minimum of gas. Buys me some time to work on other problems. |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11806 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thinking a little duct tape, wrapped around the carb, might last longer
Tim |
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OLD VW NUT Samba Member

Joined: February 23, 2011 Posts: 2776 Location: High Desert of Washington 98823
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I've done backyard repairs to throttle shafts before. I had a Pict 34 3 that was so bad it made a sucking sound as the air whistled past the throttle shaft. It was nearly impossible to make the carb idle. I took it apart and repaired it with half an oring - half on each side with a small washer to put pressure on the oring halves to hold them to the throttle shaft until the vacuum pulled them to the carb body. Worked for great for quite a while - until I was able to buy a set of Kadron carbs. I split the oring with a razor blade.
While I had the carb apart and working on it I needed the car running so I took an old Rochester 1 barrel carb I had laying around that was from an old Chevy 6 cylinder and fitted it to the DP manifold. It made pretty good power and was easy to drive but I kept getting vacuum leaks at the base of the carb since it wasn't quite a match for the VW intake manifold. It also iced up faster than the Solex carb. Adding a VW type throttle arm to the Rochester was easy since I had a torch. I brazed it to the throttle shaft.
I often wondered why nobody ever marketed a manifold for using that old Rochester carb. There was one under the hood of every old Chevy car and truck sitting in the junk yards. _________________ 71 Ghia Coupe - stock body - no rust! Powered by a 2110 W/Dual HPMX 44's - Rancho Pro Street Transaxle - A/C by Gilmore
Other car - 2013 VW Golf TDI |
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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Tim Donahoe wrote: |
I'm thinking a little duct tape, wrapped around the carb, might last longer
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The duct tape would not turn well inside the plastic sleeve. The waxed thread seals and provides enough slip factor that it doesn't bind the shaft so it turns freely. |
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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Re-bushing is kinda what I did considering the original bushing was plastic. Other than shipping off to be properly reworked, this works for me for the time being. |
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swhitcomb Samba Member

Joined: November 05, 2003 Posts: 5779 Location: Inwood WV
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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There's a guy on eBay selling new throttle shaft bushings. Might look into that instead. _________________ My 71 Ghia Been in my family since 1980
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11806 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Tex, I was just messing with you.
If it works, it works.
Actually, if my 34 PICT 3 needs work again--while it's out being rebushed, or what not, I'll try your idea on an H30/31 that I keep as a spare.
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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| swhitcomb wrote: |
| There's a guy on eBay selling new throttle shaft bushings. Might look into that instead. |
If you check out some member's reviews on those, they say they are not a good fit all the time. I was considering that.
No problem Tim. Bailing wire and duct tape are essentials in my shop |
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Joey Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5376 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Back when I had access to a lathe I machined o-ring grooves in the shaft like so...
...still working after 5 years or so. _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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texson Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 180 Location: Nacogdoches, Tx
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Joey wrote: |
Back when I had access to a lathe I machined o-ring grooves in the shaft like so...
...still working after 5 years or so. |
great work |
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aryue Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2006 Posts: 1027 Location: Austin, TX
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