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57BLITZ
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Mattegan, where did you read all this info? What are these documents you speak of --the Gene Berg stuff?
It's not that I'm questioning any of it- I just want to read up on the same stuff myself. |
I'll tell you where you could read "all this info" . . .
Go back to the post I made on page one of this thread and click on the link I provided for you!
There is a TON of information in the Gene Berg catalog and it is information that has been available for several years before you ever even had a computer!
Mattegan, from the photos, it's hard to tell, so look at the area of the case surface around those large, center studs around the #2 main bearing . . . . It ideally should have a machined appearance like the rest of the case mating surface.
Also, you can put the case together (without any internal parts) and torque ALL the case nuts to specs . . . . that same area should fit together tight and with NO gap!
RE the 82mm crank . . . if you are like me, you will not want to pay the price of a GOOD crank. For a mild street engine, quality-reworked VW con-rods are fine for up to 78.4 cranks.
And I too have been happy with CB Performance . . . I have their heads and other parts . . . they have taken good care of me!
BTW, maybe a typo you made about the Webers . . . You looked at 40IDF or 48IDA . . . big differences between them. I will be using the 40IDF Webers on my new (90.5 x 78.4) engine. I ran 48IDA Webers on my 2180cc . . . it was a MONSTER!
Oh, and put aside about a hundred bucks for a complete balance job.
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| Yeah, I read on the Aircooled.net article that I should never use a 'used' case for anything other than stock, but I've heard other things elsewhere. What if it's never had an align-bore? |
You're reading info provided by a business. They are in business to sell parts - not info. Many of us have maxed out used cases for large motors. You just need to check - double check - then get the right machine shop to do the machining. Things need to be machined in the proper order. I've rejected cases for stock rebuilds and used old cases for performance motors - you just need to know what to look for. If you are good at building motors then go for the 2110. It doesn't go together first second or third try but its a very satisfying motor to drive. I love mine. While I could have easily built a larger motor since I've done it before I saw no reason to since I'm not racing it.
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sb001
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I'll tell you where you could read "all this info" . . .
Go back to the post I made on page one of this thread and click on the link I provided for you!
There is a TON of information in the Gene Berg catalog and it is information that has been available for several years before you ever even had a computer!
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I DID look at the Gene Berg link you provided, which is why I was asking- cause I didn't see ANYTHING in there about how to upgrade an existing engine- just musings about how to NEVER line bore a case (always buy a new one), or how any crack in #3 cylinder was because of owner neglect (buy a new one), or rambling about how he rejected 80% or whatever of cases that came his way (buy HIS new one.) At least he praised my AS21 case as being the best ever made.
Mattegan already answered my question anyway.
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I DID look at the Gene Berg link you provided, which is why I was asking- cause I didn't see ANYTHING in there about how to upgrade an existing engine- just musings about how to NEVER line bore a case (always buy a new one), or how any crack in #3 cylinder was because of owner neglect (buy a new one), or rambling about how he rejected 80% or whatever of cases that came his way (buy HIS new one.)
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Lots from GB reads like advertising.
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| sb001 wrote: |
I DID look at the Gene Berg link you provided, which is why I was asking- cause I didn't see ANYTHING in there about how to upgrade an existing engine- just musings about how to NEVER line bore a case (always buy a new one), or how any crack in #3 cylinder was because of owner neglect (buy a new one), or rambling about how he rejected 80% or whatever of cases that came his way (buy HIS new one.)
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Those of us who remember having talked to him would differ with your opinion, he would dispense advise and make recommendations even if it meant not making a sale. So the exact opposite was true as he could have been much more successful skipping processes and selling shitty parts. This is difficult for the hobbyists and those with little or no formal mechanical/engineering training to understand. One thing is true he was all about quality saying that the parts he made had to meet or exceed stock specs but its human nature to gravitate towards that which seems cheap and easy. After having nearly forty years myself into working on these cars one thing never changes that's the attitude of some of the younger ones coming along thinking they will reinvent the wheel, that's human nature too. It's been said that experience is the best teacher and so I'll not stand in the way  good luck to you all.
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| sb001 wrote: |
I DID look at the Gene Berg link you provided, which is why I was asking- cause I didn't see ANYTHING in there about how to upgrade an existing engine- just musings about how to NEVER line bore a case (always buy a new one), or how any crack in #3 cylinder was because of owner neglect (buy a new one), or rambling about how he rejected 80% or whatever of cases that came his way (buy HIS new one.)
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Lots from GB reads like advertising. |
Those of us who remember having talked to him would differ with your opinion, he would dispense advise and make recommendations even if it meant not making a sale. So the exact opposite was true as he could have been much more successful skipping processes and selling shitty parts. This is difficult for the hobbyists and those with little or no formal mechanical/engineering training to understand. One thing is true he was all about quality saying that the parts he made had to meet or exceed stock specs but its human nature to gravitate towards that which seems cheap and easy. After having nearly forty years myself into working on these cars one thing never changes that's the attitude of some of the younger ones coming along thinking they will reinvent the wheel, that's human nature too. It's been said that experience is the best teacher and so I'll not stand in the way good luck to you all.
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It's good of you to defend him Jim, but he's not coming under any attack from me. I've no personal opinion of the man as I've never met him. I should have said that "Lots from GB site reads like advertising", as that's all I can access with his name on it. I've heard of his technical papers but not found them. I'd be interested in reading those.
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| If you have not read aircooled.net's tech articles this is a good starting point. Lots of your questions are answered there or at least it gives you options to think about. Great resource that I haven't been able to find anywhere else. |
This is exactly what he is saying he DOESN'T need more of. 
Why is it so difficult for those of you in the know about rebuilding engines to answer his straightforward questions????? Just TELL him what he needs
