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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

Pinetops wrote:
It looks like you have a solid bus there, congratulations! It's cool to have the icebox but honestly they get in the way, I keep mine inside my house most of the time.


Thanks! Enjoyed your thread for your westy. I agree about the icebox.. I'm not actively seeking one but if i came across one for the right price i'd probably snag it.

Thanks for all the help and info everyone! Been collecting some parts here and there but haven't done much to the bus lately. Things are finally starting to settle down so should get moving with some progress here shortly. Bout to order my jalousie seal kits and start restoring those...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

well be here watching! Hey and if you need help with those let me know!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

so had a good bit of progress last weekend... managed to drop the trans with the help of some beer and a few buddies! Very Happy

first concern was the axle nut which went smoothly
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I was a little nervous since I don't have a VW style drum puller.. but they came off pretty easy once I loosened up the brakes. helped build some momentum!
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it took me while as it was my first time doing this but was a fun learning process... from researching around the samba, hitting some hurdles, coming back to samba, referring to muir/bentley manuals, and overcoming... victory!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

In the morning I moved on to opening up the RGBs and removing the axle tubes.
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the harbor freight bearing separator/puller set worked well for this job.. I probably could have found a way around it but wanted to play it safe
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I was told I definitely need to replace the lower outer bearing as the bearing shield/cover slips on and off very easy:
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Once everything was apart I pressure washed the bus, case, and covers to help start the clean up process
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awaiting my arrival this Friday:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

I then boxed up everything and dropped off for rebuild. He plans to throw it all in a new case (that isn't cracked!) with 4.12R&P and 0.82 4th. Excited to get it back next week.. Thanks again for the recommendation Greg!
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Should have it back to me in a week or so.. Udo did a quick inspection of my RGBs and thought they were in decent enough shape for me to check and replace bearings on my own. He did recommend changing the lower/outer bearings as mentioned above.

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My axles are in decent shape luckily but two of the fulcrum plates were worn with a chip on each so will be replacing those. I'm just nervous about opening the back plate of the RGBs and fully tearing into them... I have read a bunch of threads on how to do it but am wondering if I should wait and let him handle those as well. I want to learn as much as possible in this process but also want to do it right... Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

Udo is the man for trans/redux box rebuilds. But, he won't be around forever. I hope you will try to learn more and perhaps be doing repairs for others in the future.
I'm glad to see the progress on your bus! Matt is moving right along too. I stoped by to see him and Conrad today.
Keep up the great work!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

hahah, you got me there Matt... time for an update! I documented the process with a LOT of photos (as you will see Shocked) to make sure it all went back together correctly.

I'd like to give out thanks to hazetguy and Bruce. Their two threads below were the best resources I had to get this done.. even helped more than my bentley manual!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/tech/reduction_box_rebuild/
http://leakoil.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2888&start=330
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

picked up the rebuilt trans (in new case)
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some time went by.. and I managed to get back to work! prepped and painted the spring plates
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after lots of cursing I managed to remove the freeze plugs and retaining nut
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some more time went by.. and made it back to Levon! made a little copper punch to remove the axle stub from the lower inner bearing
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removed upper inner bearing
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and let these dirty guys soak in some mineral spirits
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made it back out and started piecing everything together:
retainer nut on and torqued to spec
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freeze plug in and sealed
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installed inner bearings
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pressed upper gear and upper outer
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snap ring in
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managed to get the right side done and set axle play... 4 gaskets on this side. thinking the other will be good with 3
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almost ready!
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cleaned up and painted the trans mount
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installed backing plates w/ new gaskets/seals
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painted rgbs/backing plates
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installed new brake parts after drying a few days
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painted drums (also had them turned in austin)
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me, excited to finally get Levon back on the ground!
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if all goes well should have body work starting shortly Dancing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

Great work and lots of it!

Question I have is when you put the axles and fulcrum plates and thrust washer with internal snap ring on, did you keep the axles pushed inward the whole time since you weren't working with the center section on its side and the axle straight up in the air?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

Looking good. You have obviously learned a lot through this process. The pix you took will help others in the future.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

nice gearbox and brakes! got your foundation in Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: Levon the 66 Westy Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
Great work and lots of it!

Question I have is when you put the axles and fulcrum plates and thrust washer with internal snap ring on, did you keep the axles pushed inward the whole time since you weren't working with the center section on its side and the axle straight up in the air?


thanks! yes, I was VERY careful not to let the fulcrum plates slide out of place... maybe even too paranoid! I installed everything on one side with snap ring and all, then pulled on the axle to see how much movement it took for the fulcrums to slip out.. then disassembled, reassembled and made sure I was careful not to get remotely close to that point. the process made it a bit more tedious but made me feel much more comfortable.
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