Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
1968 Type 1 - My First Resto
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13
Jump to:
Forum Index -> Beetle - Late Model/Super - 1968-up Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Cage44
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 197
Location: Robinson Ranch, CA
Cage44 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

UPDATE: parts I carry with the bug.

Now that I am driving the bug on a more frequent basis, even if just for a cruise after work for 10 to 15 miles, I decided to build up my insurance (spare parts stash).

After owning and driving this bug for 29 years, I've had my share of "on the side of the road" incidents that needed attention. It was easier to have a part on hand for a quick fix, versus towing the bug to a garage, etc. Frankly, I learned while doing as items would fail and leave me on the side of the road. For example, when my first accelerator cable broke, I bought 1 to fix it and 1 to store in the bug for next time. That is how it got rolling. Over the years, I have had issues where the "insurance parts" were needed, which saved me a lot of time and headache, or I had the part for a nice passerby to stop and give me a hand.

Flash forward to today, and there are very, very few local places that would have a part to get me back on the road, so I think having spares are even more important now more than ever.

Now, one caveat. This does not mean my bug, or bugs in general, breakdown every week, or month for that matter. Our cars are old. Mine is almost 50 years old, crap happens. I currently keep the following parts and pieces on hand, in a small bag in the trunk, that can be the culprits for a sudden breakdown or used for a repair to get home:

accelerator cable
clutch cable
fan belt
coil
rotor
condenser
points
spark plugs
fuses
fuel filters
oil strainer and gasket kit
duct tape
electrical tape
John Muir book

In the past, I carried a spare fuel pump and a spare distributor that was all set with the new parts (condenser, points, etc.) so I could simply slip it in and go I intend to add those to items to the "insurance" stash, with the hope I do not need any of these things.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

_________________
'68 Bug
Build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cage44
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 197
Location: Robinson Ranch, CA
Cage44 is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

UPDATE: Oil bath air cleaner
While I am still contemplating cooling changes to the engine (bug has been running fine with no heating issues), I decided to keep moving on other engine parts that need attention. I decided to strip down the oil bath and give it fresh paint. It is the first thing I look at every time I open the deck lid, so I thought I would make it look the best that I can.

Unfortunately, years ago I had to swap out my original 68 air cleaner for an updated one to work with the smog equipment I had to purchase. Of course, I did not keep the oil bath so I bought one on the Samba classifieds. There is only one oil bath air cleaner that was supplied for 68. Looks similar to the 67 with the two side air intakes and 1 large hose connection instead of 2 small hose connections on the 67.

Here are a few before shots – I took shots at different angles to make it easier if you are trying to confirm a 68 oil bath air cleaner.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Unhook the clasps and the top part of the oil bath will slide out. Close up of the horse hair contained in the top piece.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Next, I removed each clip to clean and paint those as well. Each clasp has a cotter pin that secures it. I just closed the ends of the cotter pin and slid it out. I like to keep things in order and re-install in the same place where I can. So, I used my chip cups and placed them in the place they are when installed (based on facing the front of the oil bath).

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


The flaps within each air intake are held on by a plastic sleeve. There is a set for each air intake. I was a little hesitant deciding to remove them, since I was not sure how pliable or brittle they may be and did not want to break them. I decided to pull them out after I started cleaning up the oil bath. Here is a shot where the flap is located and the pieces once removed. Also, there is a little metal piece that is used to hold the flap cable. It is a tiny screw so I had to use a small screwdriver and pliers to get some torque.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


With all of the parts removed, I cleaned up any old grease with a degreaser. After that, I decided to strip the old paint off with paint stripper to get back to bare metal. I had to apply the stripper a few rounds and use a wire brush and sandpaper to get all the paint off and any surface rust. It has rust on the bottom which someone just painted over. The oil bath was a little rougher than expected, but there are no holes and the rough spots cannot be seen. Here are a few shots of the cleaned up and stripped pieces.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Here is a shot of the oil fill line within the oil bath. There is a distinct arrow that shows the maximum amount of oil that should be added. I did not strip any of the insides since it was in great shape. I just cleaned any old oil and grease off.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I masked off pieces I did not want to paint and painted both oil bath pieces (top and bottom) with etching primer. I lightly wiped the pieces down after the paint dried, then added a coat of primer.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


With the primer drying, I moved on to the clasps and flaps which I will update on later. Thanks.
_________________
'68 Bug
Build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
a.wilson
Samba Member


Joined: January 11, 2007
Posts: 2033
Location: Georgia
a.wilson is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Great detailed photos on everything, Cage.
This build is one of the few dozen that I enjoy reading.

Looking forward to seeing the finished result!
_________________
Be kind to all critters. America's "H8TERZ" can drink sludgy used Motor Oil!


oemwolf
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cage44
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 197
Location: Robinson Ranch, CA
Cage44 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Thanks a.wilson!

UPDATE: Oil bath air cleaner part 2

With the primer already on, I painted the oil bath pieces (top and bottom) gloss black.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Next, I moved on to all the rest of the pieces that are comprised of the latch assemblies, flaps and flap holders. For the latches, I removed all the existing paint with paint remover and the wire wheel on the bench grinder. I then shot a coat of etching primer, regular primer than silver paint.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


The flaps were covered in grime. I soaked the flaps and the flap plastic holder in degreaser and used a small wire brush to clean off all of the grime. I then rinsed, repeated until everything was clean. I then painted those with etching primer, regular primer then silver paint.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



With all of the little parts completed, time for re-assembly. Here is a shot of the
all the little parts.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I started with the flaps. The flaps insert into precut slots and are held by plastic pieces that clip onto the bar of each flap. The plastic pieces slide right into cross cuts on both ends of the pre-cut slots. I think pictures can explain it better than I can. Same approach for both flaps.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


I then moved on to each clasp assembly; there are 4. The bent spring clasp attaches first, then the clip that holds the top part of the oil bath and finally the cotter pin to hold both parts together. I installed all of my cotter pins the same direction, slide them in from the left. It was that way when I took it off so I followed suit. No problems with fitment.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Her are final pics of the completed assembly and how it look son the engine.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Thanks.
_________________
'68 Bug
Build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Bruit
Samba Member


Joined: April 28, 2016
Posts: 34
Location: Wisconsin
Bruit is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Cage44,

This is an awesome thread. I love the attention to detail and all the pictures. I am bookmarking this for future reference for myself. And even though it's been said already... you are doing an absolutely fantastic job!

On a side note, did you find an O-ring that goes between the top and bottom halves of the air cleaner? Or maybe a close replacement? I don't see it in the pics.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cage44
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 197
Location: Robinson Ranch, CA
Cage44 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Thanks Bruit. I have had 2 68 only air cleaners in this bug over 20+ years and none of them had an o-ring. I did not know that part existed. I will look into that. Do you have any old factory pictures of this set up with the ring? Do you know if the o-ring was only used on certain years? Just curios. Thanks again for the tip.
_________________
'68 Bug
Build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Bruit
Samba Member


Joined: April 28, 2016
Posts: 34
Location: Wisconsin
Bruit is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

I'm not entirely sure, that's why i figured I'd ask Laughing
I looked into it a while ago but eventually gave up. I haven't seen much mention of it but I saved a couple threads. I remember looking up part numbers but not getting far because I can't read or discern any model numbers on mine. It does appear different years and different manufacturers used different o-rings.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389108&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Look for the user zundapp's post. His first post asks about it and then his second post a little further down has a picture of an o-ring he found in one of his air cleaners.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2232722&highlight=#2232722
This one has a better picture of where it goes.

It would seem that it keeps air from bypassing the filter through the space between the filter top half and the velocity stack of the bottom half. So it sounds kind of important, but it also sounds like a lot of people do not have that ring. So I can't comment on just how important it is. But definitely let me know if you have better luck digging up information or finding one!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Mopar_Beach
Samba Member


Joined: October 16, 2015
Posts: 11

Mopar_Beach is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

I just read through this entire thread...AWESOME!!! I am new to VW, been a Mopar guy my whole life and have a '71 Super vert that I am going through. This will HELP tremendously! Keep up the great work and your thoroughness with attention to detail is admirable. Very Happy
_________________
1970 Dodge Challenger, 440, 4-speed, R/T, Plum Crazy
2007 Jeep Wrangler X, 4X4, 3.8L, Detonator Yellow
2007 Jeep Commander, 4.7L, Rocky Mountain Edition, Black
Looking for a bug...Type 1
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
chadmark88
Samba Member


Joined: October 31, 2015
Posts: 51
Location: Northport AL
chadmark88 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

GREAT build thread !!! Your detailed pictures will help a lot while working on my 1969. Thanks for all your hard work taking these pictures and describing EVERY detail.
_________________
1969 Autostick - Savannah Beige / Brown Interior

"The Only People Worth Getting Even With . . .
. . . Are Those Who Have Helped You"

"If You're Lucky Enough To Be Healthy . . .
. . . You're Lucky Enough"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
joey1320
Samba Member


Joined: September 12, 2006
Posts: 2338
Location: Cleveland, OH
joey1320 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Hmmm Pringles.
_________________
1971 Super - Sold
1984 Puma GTC - Sold
1971 Campmobile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AlmostHeavenWV_VW
Samba Member


Joined: October 12, 2017
Posts: 1968
Location: WV
AlmostHeavenWV_VW is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Well done sir! That is one exquisite bug you have and this is an amazing write up on all of your hardwork!

I'll be watching, reading, and learning along with your resto Cool
_________________
1973 Standard Beetle
1600DP AK case
Solex 34PICT3 Carb
Bosch DVDA 205AJ Distributor
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AircooledUnicorn
Samba Member


Joined: March 11, 2018
Posts: 9
Location: Australia
AircooledUnicorn is offline 

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2018 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

This is incredible! Well done and good luck.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
amaskedman
Samba Member


Joined: August 08, 2020
Posts: 56
Location: WA
amaskedman is offline 

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Updates stopped? I have a 68 and I have been very interested in this thread. I hope everything is ok.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
clockworkbox
Samba Member


Joined: July 12, 2020
Posts: 471
Location: Williamsport, PA
clockworkbox is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

This is a master class build thread. Thank you for taking the time to document these procedures so well. Bookmarked for sure.
_________________
'69 Beetle (pieces)
Learning the hard way is still learning...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cage44
Samba Member


Joined: January 16, 2012
Posts: 197
Location: Robinson Ranch, CA
Cage44 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

Clockworkbox - thanks for the comment and hope it can help. I need to finish this thread but I have been enjoying driving around town when I can. Stay tuned, will wrap this up over the Summer. Thanks!
_________________
'68 Bug
Build thread http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...p;start=20
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
CoastalBug
Samba Member


Joined: June 15, 2025
Posts: 64
Location: TX
CoastalBug is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

This was a very fun read! Good looking bug too! I only hope I have the ability to do the same one day.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
73Grabber
Samba Member


Joined: June 17, 2025
Posts: 5
Location: ON
73Grabber is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: 1968 Type 1 - My First Resto Reply with quote

As someone who is just about to start working on a 1973 Beetle, this thread has been mega.

Looking forward to your updates.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - Late Model/Super - 1968-up All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13
Jump to:
Page 13 of 13

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2024, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.