52 Zwitter

[Rome]

My gosh, a Lloyd- haven't seen one in the USA for 25 years! Where did you dig this one up? I was a member of the Microcar Club based out of NJ for at least 10 years, and the prevalent observation was that nearly any unusual mini or microcar was found in Pennsylvania.

In 1990 I was in Illinois on business several times, about an hour east of St. Louis MO. In the town of either New Minden or Carlyle I stumbled across an older American farmer guy who had at least 10 Lloyds hoarded in his yard.

Have you tried Chuck P (organizer of the Terryville VW meet in CT) for your '53 pedal assembly, and fenders? Did you get your engine running?

[AlanInMass54]

Hi Roland! This came from Ohio. I made a trade for it and it worked out great. Yeah PA has all kinds of neat stuff laying around! I remember being in a junkyard near Scranton in the early 90's and finding a Vespa 400 there, wish I could have saved it! Wow I'd have loved to meet the guy in IL, he's probably long gone by now? I'm trying to find parts for the Lloyd, mainly front seats (same with the Zwitter, what is it with front seats?!).
Yeah I've tried Chuck and haven't had any success with him, he's busy. Found a pedal assembly in my shed, didn't know it was there and I'll just fix the old right rear fender I have even though it's a rusty mess. Have a fine holiday, Sir!

[tisius]

So, any progress on your prized possession(s)?
Did you already complete the Lloyd?
Exciting!
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[AlanInMass54]

Hello! Working on the Lloyd currently. It's a nice change of pace after just doing VWs for so long. Any repair panels have to be hand made pretty much,
it's fun!

Before:

After

It went from being a rotted out mess to a nice solid car. After this is done I guess I will go back to the Zwitter.

[tisius]

That is C L !
Lloyd sounds like a UK car brand.... but it's actually German (people do know Borgward), very neato

You're doing great, keep up the good work man.
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drive it like you just robbed the bank
you don't have to be crazy to be into VW's, but it sure helps!!
.... if it ain't dutch, it ain't much!

[dailydrivervw]

Hi Alan...I finally read the whole 5 pages....and now I see why you have "project burnout". No offence to the purists or you, but all that fussin', spending good brain cells on getting dimpled fenders and a 53 pan, older aprons, front hood details, all of which were kinda toasty when you got/bought those?...all that stuff never shows and not many people would care, let alone know, as they see the car rolling down the road. That is a huge part of project burnout on trying to save a rusted out split. At 65, I sure look at things differently now.

I don't dare post the following on my Fb, as "some" friends there think I am out of control...which actually I am...but I just might do a slam/bang fixer upper on the 61. Alan, it was 200 bucks ! I think I have everything here that I need except normal stuff like new brake cylinders, tires and perhaps a windshield...I even have a new battery in the T3, so there! lol

I'd prefer a split, but let's face it, an early to mid 60s is just so darned easy...and actually better for what I need as yet another VW A/C daily. The 57 euro S/R went 4 or 5 years with no backup car, and the Nevada 70 T3 went 10 faithful years with no backup car, until the forces of New England climate finished it off. Tram was correct years ago when he said : "all those years that VW built so many bugs...they were just practicing...for the T3". The T3 really is a great VW..never knew how great until living with one so long.. I never planned on getting a T3 as a replacement for the 57 bug, it just showed up in town for $300 when I really needed a GOOD fun cheap car to use. So, maybe it is time for a bug again, as I can't find another Nevada T3 wagon around here...lmao

I doubt I will do a resto thread here, but it would not be called a barn find 35k mile bug, but fact is, it IS a "barn fell on it", find. he, he

[AlanInMass54]

Tisius: Thanks! I work on it nearly every day. There was a UK Lloyd also, though no relation. Yup, this along with Hansa were under the Borgward brand.

DDVW/Frank: Yeah I just wanted to make it as correct as I could, that was all. I didn't want it to look all cobbled together. Yes no one would have seen the underside of the fenders or hood, but I would have been happier knowing they were there and right. Technically it's far from a rusted out car, just bastardized, it's solid as hell! It was just owned by morons who messed it up. I just finally ran out of steam, then the LLoyd came along and this got mothballed. I never did find front seats, which are mandatory as the floors are different. I'll get back to it when the Lloyd is done. Definitely do a resto thread on the 61 here (despite it should be mine ) It's a barn find more than most barn finds are, as the barn fell on it!

[SuperDav]

Just read and saw the photos of the many victories you made with your Zwitter. You've done some great fabrication work there. It's been a few years now...have you completed the car...some pics would be great to see.
I'm working on a 59 ragtop beetle that has just been one thing after another.