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BlueBug67 Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2003 Posts: 55 Location: Bedford Hills, NY
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:40 am Post subject: Proper Engine Oil, What Do You Use? |
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Firstly, thanks to all the kind folks and fellow VW drivers that offered their help. Now I need some advice on Motor Oil. What is the best kind, brand, weight, etc to use in my '67 Beetle?
The facts are:
1) it has a rebuilt 1600cc motor, I don't know is single or dual port heads
2) it will be used for daily, local driving
3) I live about 50 miles North of NYC, so we get all kinds of 'great' weather - hot, cold, dry & wet.
That's it friends, what should I use? |
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j.pickens Samba Member

Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9831 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Straight 30 Weight.
Castrol or Quaker State.
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gerg a.k.a. 6volt65

Joined: April 25, 2003 Posts: 5454 Location: Monroe, LA
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:07 am Post subject: |
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40 weight Pennzoil. _________________ Gerg
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Jessica Samba Chat Whore

Joined: June 07, 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Clinton, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:14 am Post subject: |
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I use Quaker State 10w30 oil all year round. Just my $0.02 _________________ VW-less right now...looking
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keifernet Samba Search & Rescue
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 19395 Location: Samba Center for Behavioral Science
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:25 am Post subject: |
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For the sake of a goog argument
I use 20w50 which would be good for you in the warm months and swithc to 10w 30 in the winter...
straight weight is okay if that's what you like, but IMO the multigrades perform better. |
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daSCHISSnit Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2003 Posts: 334 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Castrol Heavy Duty 30 weight |
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Etmorgan Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2003 Posts: 62 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:19 am Post subject: |
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I use Quaker State 10w30 same as Jessica. I dont drive year round due to salty roads in the winter. I probably should switch to a 20/50 in the hot summer time. _________________ ___( o \ l / o )___
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Jessica Samba Chat Whore

Joined: June 07, 2003 Posts: 1160 Location: Clinton, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 10:31 am Post subject: |
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I guess I should have mentioned that I don't actually drive my Bug in the winter after it snows. I do start her up though. But 30 degree weather in March (when I had her out this year) is different from 90 degree weather in June. I guess I threw the year round statement in just to show that I don't switch oils... _________________ VW-less right now...looking
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chillz1 Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 869 Location: Where You Least Expect
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I guess alot of purists are going to be upset at this, but I always use a multi-grade oil in my VW's. 20w50 in the summer, and 10w30 in the winter. VW recomended the straight weight oils over 50 years ago, and they really aren't sensible for use in today's conditions. At the same time, I know of lots of folks who use straight 30 and 40 and have no problems, I just don't happen to be one of them.  |
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UncleBob Grease Midget

Joined: August 21, 2002 Posts: 2862 Location: Northeast Florida
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:54 am Post subject: |
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20W50 for me also, year-round.
Blu-Bug, if your intake manifold splits into 2 large (but connected) tubes before it connects to the head, you have a dual port. Post a picture of your bucket in the 'Readers Rides' section. 67's are cool. _________________ OG JHC
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buglover60 Samba Member

Joined: August 10, 2003 Posts: 63
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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well the truth about motor oil is that a mono grade oil has better lubricating qualities than a multi grade thats why VW recomended it back in the day BUT the design has not changed of the air cooled engine obviously the most impotant thing to an air cooled is its oil mono grade is still prefered but alot of peopl use mutli I have never run anything but SAE 30 in my bugs and never had a prob I live in Cali now but lived in Wa state as for brand it all comes down to personal pref all the major ones are good EVEN penz. thats what I use because its usually cheaper alot of people freak about it being perifin based btu in actuality all oil eccept synthetic is either perifin or asphault based and one of the major brands doesnt even process its own crued they buy it from another Penz was just the first to go the "wax" route thats why they got the bad name
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Foxx Uncle Meat

Joined: August 27, 2001 Posts: 4897 Location: at the computer,.......DUH!
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Castrol GTX 20-50
granted VW recomends you use a stright weight, but they also recomend tires that wouldn't cut it in todays performance.
it's a personal prefference but with the heat in the southeast and lack of snow/ice 99.9% of the year,i will stay with what keeps my stuff running healthy.
any oil is good AS LONG AS YOU CHANGE IT OFTEN!
but for my money, the 20/50 gets my vote.
oils have changed in the past 40 years,change with them! _________________ Frank
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chillz1 Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 869 Location: Where You Least Expect
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Foxx4086 JHC wrote: |
oils have changed in the past 40 years,change with them! |
Good point, Frank. Multi-grades offer many more advantages than single viscosity oils, but if you're really worried about the alleged "lack of proper lubricating properties" of modern multi-grades, use Shell "Rotella". Where most modern oils lack Zinc content (good for bearings), Rotella has an abundance of it. |
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bdsobel Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 11 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject: oil grade |
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spoke to my guy today and he uses straight 30w on all air-cooled VW's. I have an 1980 Vanagon Camper that barely leaks oil at 107,100 miles. My valve tap was unusually loud lately, added some CD2 and now want to change the oil.
I was thinking of changing to synthetic but am lost in discussion.
Moving to San Diego too, so was thinking of straight 40w, sticking with 10w40 valvoline max life or switching to 15w50 mobile 1 synthetic..or a synthetic blend maybe? so indecisive. can anyone with an AIR-COOLED please weigh in? help!
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chabanais Samba Member

Joined: July 27, 2002 Posts: 4866
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Synthetic runs coolest so I use 20w-50. _________________ "I spud therefore I yam." |
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Erik G Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13552 Location: Tejas!
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I use 20-50 in the summer, it gets 110 degrees here and at the same time, 2 weeks later at 3 in the morning it might be 65 degrees, or cooler. a lot of fluctuation. In the winter I use 10-30 _________________ Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
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67type1 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2003 Posts: 37 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I've been using 20/50 in my bug....stock 1500 in this L.A. Heat, doing real good. Drive it hard all day long. Is Synthetic any better for a bug? |
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OvalWindowBucket Samba Member

Joined: April 23, 2003 Posts: 694 Location: Reviving my Microbus
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I believe it was vwtrends that did an article on synthetic oil vs. traditional oil, and the synthetic test results yielded lower temps throughout the engine compared to traditional oil.
hope this helps
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67type1 Samba Member

Joined: August 15, 2003 Posts: 37 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm... something to think about on the next oil change! |
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type34inKY Samba Member
Joined: May 30, 2003 Posts: 243
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Check out the article in page 2 of the following for synthetic info in an A/C VW:
http://www.cvwcl.com/newsletters/june2003.pdf _________________ Philip
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