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Bryan67
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Is there anyone still making welded dropped spindles for an early Bay with drum brakes? They seem to have disappeared. The EMPI ones are disc only, and Wagenswest wants $700.00 for their new ones. I haven`t called Old Speed yet. But will if needed.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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So your real complaint is you can't afford the ones that are made. There might be some suggestions in the Lowering thread if you look there.
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Bryan67
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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I’m looking for some for a friends Bus. And it’s been a few years since I’ve owned my 68. And it looks like the prices have doubled. And the amounts of suppliers have really gotten smaller.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| I’m looking for some for a friends Bus. And it’s been a few years since I’ve owned my 68. And it looks like the prices have doubled. And the amounts of suppliers have really gotten smaller. |
probably so. Might check classifieds for awhile to see if someone going the other way is selling a pair. More people raising buses back to stock these days than lowering them. Someone said on here the other day every time a lowering kit is taken off a bus an angel gets their wings.
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Bryan67
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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Haha... or once one gets lowered, it finally gets the look it needs. Stock is fine for some people, but I just can’t do it.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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Oldspeed will be about the same price I imagine. I bought some 2” drop spindles 5 years ago and they were $665. I removed them after a few months and went back to stock.
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Jeff Geisen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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I say “praise the lowered!”
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Dibaltic
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Haha... or once one gets lowered, it finally gets the look it needs. Stock is fine for some people, but I just can’t do it. |
Agreed. I saw on old speeds post of some bay spindles it was $450. But that was a 4 year old post.
Type-emotorsports looks to have some really interesting brake setups that uses modern car wheel bearings, rotors, and calipers. I see he has a 3.5" drop baywindow spindle built from scratch. It's only listed in the full beam kit on the website but I'd imagine it would be able to be bought without the beam too.
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panic_fan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Is there anyone still making welded dropped spindles for an early Bay with drum brakes? They seem to have disappeared. The EMPI ones are disc only, and Wagenswest wants $700.00 for their new ones. I haven`t called Old Speed yet. But will if needed. |
I would not want the cheapest option for these. WW seems great at what they do, and been around for some time. I got my spindles several years back and they are beefy. He used to take the stock ones back and discount or credit, not sure if thats still the case.
They gave my bus the look i wanted. This is only 2.5 spindles in front. Everything else stock.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:46 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Bryan67 wrote: |
| Haha... or once one gets lowered, it finally gets the look it needs. Stock is fine for some people, but I just can’t do it. |
I thought it was for a friends bus ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Wagens West is about the only game out there. 😘👌 |
Time to double the price for the droppers
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Wagens West is about the only game out there. 😘👌 |
Time to double the price for the droppers |
As Nathan says - owner - operator. He has bought out a couple of places that had front spindle cores. He needs two sets of drum to make one raised or lowered. Another reason he asks for your early set and the premium price.
Early cores will be gone someday, then you might get lucky with full machined fabbed ones. How much will that cost?
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TomWesty
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| I say “praise the lowered!” |
That would sound about right in Georgia! I lived in Savannah for a time and loved it.
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VWsArent4Hippies
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Is there anyone still making welded dropped spindles for an early Bay with drum brakes? They seem to have disappeared. The EMPI ones are disc only, and Wagenswest wants $700.00 for their new ones. I haven`t called Old Speed yet. But will if needed. |
Yes, Old Speed makes them. I prefer them over Wagens West. While they are a 2” drop vs the 2.5” from Wagens West, they actually narrow the track width a hair, instead of widening it.
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VWsArent4Hippies
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| Wagens West is about the only game out there. 😘👌 |
Time to double the price for the droppers |
As Nathan says - owner - operator. He has bought out a couple of places that had front spindle cores. He needs two sets of drum to make one raised or lowered. Another reason he asks for your early set and the premium price.
Early cores will be gone someday, then you might get lucky with full machined fabbed ones. How much will that cost?
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Wagens West early bay dropped spindles are all new, no cores required (2.5” drop, .75” track width increase)
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| Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Dropped Spindles |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Abscate wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Wagens West is about the only game out there. 😘👌 |
Time to double the price for the droppers |
As Nathan says - owner - operator. He has bought out a couple of places that had front spindle cores. He needs two sets of drum to make one raised or lowered. Another reason he asks for your early set and the premium price.
Early cores will be gone someday, then you might get lucky with full machined fabbed ones. How much will that cost?
You gotta pay to play. |
Wagens West early bay dropped spindles are all new, no cores required (2.5” drop, .75” track width increase) |
Then that must be for raised ones only. My mistake.
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