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xoo00oox Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2010 Posts: 2673 Location: East Nassau, NY
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:02 am Post subject: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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...........................I recently bought a Fiamma bike rack for the rear hatch of my van. Even with trying a couple different brands of new replacement shocks, the hatch would no longer stay open on its own. I know about the trick with a piece of PVC over the shock but was trying to avoid it so I can close the hatch without having to fool with it.
............................I found that you can buy new ones in different strengths from McMaster-Carr, they refer to them as gas springs. I tried to measure how strong one of the new stock ones were and found it to be around 150lb. I bought one new 175lb one from McMaster and put it on with the other one still being the stock strength, the lid now would stay open with the empty bike rack on. I then put two of the 175lb shocks on and now the hatch will stay open with 1 bike on the rack and it still feels good without the bike on it (not too hard to close). You need to buy the ball-socket end and eyelet end separately from them. You can choose to go stronger as well, they have them alll the way up to 250lb. I'd advise you to keep them as light as you can for what you need, I'm not sure how much weight will start breaking things.
GAS SPRING-#9416K28 (you need to specify what strength)
BALL SOCKET-#9416K79
EYELET-#9416K88
Just copy/paste these part numbers into their search bar.
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RoryGirl Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 785 Location: WestWorld Nanaimo BC
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4003 Location: Maine
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4026 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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Mr XO is always thinking. Mc Mas is the best. I worry about all that stress being transferred on the sheet metal around the hinge on the tailgate.
Although I loath things hanging of my van, I'd rather have a swig away the all the weight on the gate.
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Ahwahnee Samba Member
Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 9811 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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xoo00oox wrote: |
...I then put two of the 175lb shocks on and now the hatch will stay open... |
How the heck do you close it when the rack is empty? |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3583 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
xoo00oox wrote: |
...I then put two of the 175lb shocks on and now the hatch will stay open... |
How the heck do you close it when the rack is empty? |
Silly question, that’s what kids are for....
You toss one onto the hatch and make into a ride,,,,wheee...P _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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vanagonjr Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3431 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
xoo00oox wrote: |
...I then put two of the 175lb shocks on and now the hatch will stay open... |
How the heck do you close it when the rack is empty? |
Pro tip. Don’t arm wrestle him for money. _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7482 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
xoo00oox wrote: |
...I then put two of the 175lb shocks on and now the hatch will stay open... |
How the heck do you close it when the rack is empty? |
I had twin 250 psi struts and it took some effort to close with no bikes but you get some leverage at the end of the tailgate. This definitely calls for a variable assist strut controlled by a bluetooth app. _________________ - Jim
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mikemtnbike Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2015 Posts: 2798 Location: North Carolina
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davideric9 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 1002 Location: Oakland CA
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:59 am Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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GAS SPRING CALCULATOR:
Could try this calculator instead of all the guess work. Also note the recommended installation is "The rod must be turned downwards at rest for proper lubrication of the gas spring." _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia, stock (bought 1994)
1986 Syncro Westfalia SVX, 3 knob (bought 2008)
1987 Westfalia (bought 2010)
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maco70 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 456 Location: Montréal, Québec
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Need some stronger rear hatch shocks? |
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To use this tool, do we know the weight of the hatch ?
Then, for another use well known, do we know the weight of the pop top ? _________________ Martin from Montréal
1986 Vanagon GL full camper westfalia
(brown/tan interior) |
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