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13nunez
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:07 pm Post subject: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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So it recently started raining here in So Cal, so now i decided to wire up my windshield wipers. I've been going based on the 1967 VW Diagram but i keep blowing my fuse. So i need help wiring the Wiper motor to my Wiper Switch. PLEASE. I am using using my bug as my daily driver so i really need to get this working. any help?
Here is my Motor
Here is my Switch
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grandpa pete
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This diagram is in the technical section on the Samba
lf you click on this twice it will enlarge
center left W is wiper motor .....under it is the switch E
31b black wire from switch to motor
53 black wire from switch to motor
53a black and red from switch to motor
53b yellow black to motor
31 on switch 12 volt to fuse
switch has to be grounded...clean it
Confusing that the drawing has 6 wires and only 5 pin designations .
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jhoefer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| grandpa pete wrote: |
center left W is wiper motor .....under it is the switch E
31b black wire from switch to motor
53 black wire from switch to motor
53a black and red from switch to motor
53b yellow black to motor
31 on switch 12 volt to fuse
switch has to be grounded...clean it
Confusing that the drawing has 6 wires and only 5 pin designations . |
31 on the switch is ground. It does NOT go to the fuse box.
The power wire from the fuse box goes to the + tab on the switch.
The dimmer switch on the column grounds through terminal 31 on the wiper switch. The wiper switch itself is grounded through its housing to the metal dash.
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grandpa pete
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| jhoefer wrote: |
| grandpa pete wrote: |
center left W is wiper motor .....under it is the switch E
31b black wire from switch to motor
53 black wire from switch to motor
53a black and red from switch to motor
53b yellow black to motor
31 on switch 12 volt to fuse
switch has to be grounded...clean it
Confusing that the drawing has 6 wires and only 5 pin designations . |
31 on the switch is ground. It does NOT go to the fuse box.
The power wire from the fuse box goes to the + tab (or #30) on the switch. |
YOU should take ANOTHER look at the DRAWING !!!
31 black wire direct to the fuse !!!!
There isn't any contact 30 on the switch E !!!
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jhoefer
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You're right, #30 would be for a later switch, a 67 would still be labeled "+".
You connect 31 to the fuse box and you'll blow the fuse as soon as you turn the key.
#31 is a standard designation for a ground terminal. Just as #30 is a standard designation for a constant +12V terminal, or #15 for switched +12V.
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grandpa pete
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If you are trying to tell me that 31 is the designation for the brown wire below the number 31 then what is the designation for the black wire to the right of the number 31
I can only work with the drawing I have ...do you have other sources ?
I am teachable.......
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jhoefer
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| grandpa pete wrote: |
If you are trying to tell me that 31 is the designation for the wire below the number 31 then what is the designation for the wire to the right of the number 31
I can only work with the drawing I have ...do you have other sources ? |
+: black wire to fuse box (wiper power) (Look for the + in the lower left corner of the switch in the diagram) (In '68, this changed from + to #30)
53: black wire to wiper motor 53 (low speed)
53b: black/yellow wire to wiper motor 53b (high speed)
53a: black/violet wire to wiper motor 53a (park power)
31b: brown wire to wiper motor 31b (park ground)
31: brown wire to dimmer switch (ground toggle for dimmer relay)
(unlabeled): ground symbol to wiper switch body (park ground)
Circled 4: Wiper motor grounds through case mounting to body. (But can also be a separate brown wire from wiper motor #31 to ground depending on year/part.) |
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grandpa pete
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glutamodo 
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The wiper switch is GROUNDED just by being bolted to the dashboard! Terminal 31 on the switch is not for the wiper circuit at all, it is a "source" of ground for other circuits.
Some Official VW diagrams weren't laid out very well. I went in and "fixed" the wiper diagram here, making it easier to see what designation goes with which wire:
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Donnie strickland
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As Andy says that factory diagram can be a little confusing, but yes, 31 is always ground, and the black wire is simply labeled with a "+" sign -- you have to look really really closely to see it on the diagram. Another giveaway is the color -- solid black, on a VW, is always switched power.
13nunez, here's a key to the numbers and what they mean:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_72552
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Dynaflash
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Anybody have a diagram like above for a 62 ?
I have the full diagram but think this wiper only one would be more clear to me |
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glutamodo
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1962 is really simple.
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Abscate
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| glutamodo wrote: |
The wiper switch is GROUNDED just by being bolted to the dashboard! Terminal 31 on the switch is not for the wiper circuit at all, it is a "source" of ground for other circuits.
Some Official VW diagrams weren't laid out very well. I went in and "fixed" the wiper diagram here, making it easier to see what designation goes with which wire:
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Nicely done. That switch on the diagram is reall easy to mix up the + and 31 terminals. You sure can't count on the colours being right on a thrice rewired a Beetle.....
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Dynaflash
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| Wow. Thanks for the info. On the 62 that will be a big help to me |
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alidabiri
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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Hi folks. I'm trying to test my wiper motor.
everybody says 53, 53a, 53b, 31, 31b. I don't know what does are and where they go (maybe the steering column).
they are: black, brown, green, black/white, black/yellow.
I know the brown is ground.
I just kneed to know the high high and low speed so that I can connect the battery to it and see if the motor is working or not. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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Hi folks. I'm trying to test my wiper motor.
everybody says 53, 53a, 53b, 31, 31b. I don't know what does are and where they go (maybe the steering column).
they are: black, brown, green, black/white, black/yellow.
I know the brown is ground.
I just kneed to know the high high and low speed so that I can connect the battery to it and see if the motor is working or not. |
Always good to mention the year of the wiper or at least the VW in question.
jhoefer posted that wiring info earlier in this same thread.
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alidabiri
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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| alidabiri wrote: |
Hi folks. I'm trying to test my wiper motor.
everybody says 53, 53a, 53b, 31, 31b. I don't know what does are and where they go (maybe the steering column).
they are: black, brown, green, black/white, black/yellow.
I know the brown is ground.
I just kneed to know the high high and low speed so that I can connect the battery to it and see if the motor is working or not. |
Always good to mention the year of the wiper or at least the VW in question.
jhoefer posted that wiring info earlier in this same thread. |
Sorry about that. My bad.
it's a 72 VW super beetle wiper motor. |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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| alidabiri wrote: |
Sorry about that. My bad.
it's a 72 VW super beetle wiper motor. |
No worries, still the terminal number designations will be the same. Euro auto manufactures standardized both wiring colors and terminal designations so that someone working on a Volvo or other Euro make could understand working on VW wiring also.
Down at the very bottom of each of the wiring webpages is a listing of all colors and terminals to what they meant.
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alidabiri
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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| alidabiri wrote: |
Sorry about that. My bad.
it's a 72 VW super beetle wiper motor. |
No worries, still the terminal number designations will be the same. Euro auto manufactures standardized both wiring colors and terminal designations so that someone working on a Volvo or other Euro make could understand working on VW wiring also.
Down at the very bottom of each of the wiring webpages is a listing of all colors and terminals to what they meant. |
Sorry. that didn't help or answer the question.
My question is:
what color wire of the above color wires provide the power to the motor? |
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Wiring |
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| alidabiri wrote: |
Sorry. that didn't help or answer the question.
My question is:
what color wire of the above color wires provide the power to the motor? |
Look at the 1967 wiring diagrams a couple of posts below what jhoefer posted and combine those two bits of info.
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