First VW is 69 resurection

[mercsim]

I'm 62 and this is my first VW. It was given to me last week. Its been sitting next to his Arizona house for the last 30 years. I rode in a Van in the late 80's but have never even sat in a Beetle. I've flown 6 airplanes with VW engines. These are the two I built that I still fly. They have 2180 AeroVees if anyone is interested in learning more about the motor. It was basically a bolt together kit. I'll post occasional photos and update and ask questions as I go. So far I've spent a TON of time watching YouTube videos. Its so fun

My plan is to resurrect it and NOT restore it. I have always dreamed of a body-off restoration but I'm getting older and have WAY too many other hobbies. We'll see what the future holds. I'll clean and protect the paint as is. I'll replace all the brakes and fuel system. It needs a clutch. That's why it was parked. I'll get the motor running as-is if possible and return it to as stock as practical. I'll slowly replace all the rubber and add a new interior as the budget allows. First get it running and driving

Scott

[Chinaclipper]

A few musings:
Based on your pictures, looks like she's sat there for a while.
Other than a messy engine compartment, it looks promising, IMHO. Glass looks good, interesting location for a oil filter.....but hey.
Arizona car? Looks like the heater channels are OK.. What do the pans look like?
If the HC and pans are OK, I'd say you gotta a runner.
Interior looks messy, a little sun-damaged, but looks do-able..

If you've done the airplane engine thing, you'll be fine!
Dude, if you've an build a VW engine that passes FAA guidelines, you can definitely put together a 69 VW beetle motor.
Hehehe, just remember to safety wire the fuel line to the carb.. J/K..
You know all about that stuff.
Have a great time, looks like a good find..
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[Glenn]

Assume all the hoses, brake lines, rubber and vinyl parts will need to be replaced.

I've seen much worse put back on the road.
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[mercsim]

The driver side is pretty bad. Based on the 275 drink cups I took out, I'd say it had lots of soda spilled in it. The seats also showed evidence of this. The driver one had syrup just caked on. Once I get the motor out, I'll drag it to the car wash and pressure wash inside pretty good. It came with a towbar. I'll re-evaluate at that point. The current plan is to cut some of this metal out and weld in patches. It was undercoated and there isn't any visible rust underneath. Like I said, I just want a driver. It will live in the hangar with the airplanes and be an airport/lunch run car. I hang out there a lot.

Scott

[Bobs67vwagen]

This is the 2nd 1969 bug that was posted today with a Weber carb conversion. Kind of odd since they are not as common on the upright type1 motors as they are on the late bus type 4 motors. For what you want to do with it I would get everything cleaned up real good, get it running before you pull the engine for the clutch so you know what you have. I hope it turns out to be as much fun for you as the beautiful plane you showed . Good luck Bob

[Cusser]

In 2016-2017 I resurrected my 1970 VW that had been retired and sitting at the side of my house for 23 years (also Arizona). My resurrection thread might be of some interest. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=664950&highlight=resurrection
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[mercsim]

I'm NOT a car guy and new to VW's so please bare with me. Someone pointed out the carb is a Weber. I noticed its a 'two barrel'. A buddy took the pictured one off an airplane and gave it to me. He said he thought it was a fresh overhaul. Is it the correct one for this engine? If not, what is? If it is, it looks like I may need to find an intake manifold. I'll rebuild it of course. Can anyone tell me about the engine SN? Did VW actually sell re-manufactured ones? The best I can find is its period correct and probably 1500. Any thoughts? The VIN ends with 9485. Is it just coincidence the engine number is that close?

[mercsim]

The engine is about ready to come out. I've pulled about 8 gallons of rat dung and nuts out of the engine bay so far. It was suggested I try to run it before removing it. With sitting for 30 years and the wiring all chewed up, I thought it was best just to take it out. I also think the shroud is full of poop and nuts. It has some funky oil cooler behind the fan shroud and that remote filter.

There was a NOS VW pump with the spare parts. I think I saw someone say they are re-buildable. I would like to get a known carb, new pump, rotor, points, wires, etc. I'll run it on the stand before it goes back in the car. It appears to have 109,000 before it was parked. I don't know where in the 25 years it drove the motor was replaced but the previous owner didn't think it had that many miles after the motor job. He is a good friend and he gave it to me for free ninety free so no reason to exaggerate. It does turn over easily by hand.

Scott

[Bobs67vwagen]

The carb on the car is a Weber probably a 32 36 progressive. The 34 pict- 3 you just showed would be the original equipment carb for a 71 thru 74 US market federal emissions for a factory dual port motor. In the initial photos you took I cannot see because of leaves on the sides of the engine bay whether your manifold is single or dual port. The pict-3 fits directly on the dual port manifold with the removable ends. The pict-3 will not fit the manifold that the Weber is sitting on. The 69 probably had a 30 Pict-2 originally. Hope this helps- Bob

[OldSchoolVW's]

[Cusser]

[mercsim]

I only turned it back and forth 10 degrees or so. I won't turn it more until I get the valve covers off and the fan cleared out. Is that Weber worth keeping? I kind of want it stock. Its single port heads. I did shoot an email to Tim. Thanks for the tip but he may be out of my price range for now Anyone want to trade stock stuff for the Weber and 34?

My friend said it was running great when he parked it. The clutch went out and he nursed it home.

Any help on engine numbers?

Scott

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[Bobs67vwagen]

If it is a real Weber(made in Spain or Italy) it will say Weber and the country on it. If it's real you could probably place it in the classifieds with the manifold and someone may be willing to trade stock parts for a 69 bug for it.

[mercsim]

Thanks Bob We'll know more when I get it off or get the engine out.

Scott

[tasb]

Looks like a dual port based on the manifold boot visible under the oil filter. Likely a 1600 now.
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[mercsim]

This is the best photo I have right now. The car is at a friends house or I would go take another one. Its a single port. Both of my airplanes are dual. I'm a bit disappointed at the mods and am really looking forward to a better look once its out. Again, I want is as stock as practical.

The tin is out. All the bolts/nuts are off and everything is disconnected. Is all loose now and tomorrow we are attempting to drop it.

I'll be sure to post updates
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[Bobs67vwagen]

If you can swing it, 2 rolling floor jacks make taking the engine out a " pleasure ". Also get 2 good jack stands, and some assorted lumber. If on dirt a couple of sheets of plywood are a luxury. When I first started fooling around with vws many moons ago I used to drop them onto an old chair cushion, jack the car up and tilt and drag the engine out. Have fun good luck Bob

[OldSchoolVW's]

A motorcycle/ATV lift is probably the easiest/safest way to lower a VW engine. Worth checking to see if a friend has one you can borrow ... or you could rent one.

https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-aluminum-atv...ACTQWJTLtP
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[mercsim]

Here are a few photos I just took. I'm a bit concerned about the tin by the heads allowing it to move aft to clear the drive shaft. Do they need to come out too?

We have 3 floor jacks, 4 jack stands, and a transmission/ATV jack.

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