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Murdlem Samba Member

Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 522 Location: Port Angeles, Washington
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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The window is just resting there, waiting for install into the car.
I first put the seal onto the window, using the tape to keep
it in place as you go around. Then, insert the trim into the
slot in the seal.
I think the rubber would be too compressed after installing
into the car to allow for easy insertion of the trim. _________________ Eric Meldrum
68 Ghia
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A-Wild Samba Member

Joined: January 14, 2013 Posts: 66 Location: Edmond, OK
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Murdlem wrote: |
Take your time, its not too hard. I used some masking tape to help hold the rubber seal in place while getting it on. Then patiently pushed the trim in. I had to move the masking tape as the trim was inserted, then pushed the tape back down. Probably took 20 - 30 minutes fir the seal and trim.
I should be installing the window soon. It's really a 2 person job. I use string wrapped 2 or 3 tines around the outside of the seal, and some silicone spray. One person outside pushing and sometimes slapping with your palm and one inside using the string to pull the seal over the lip. I've done ghia and bug windows before, front, rear, and stationary quarter windows.
Here is a picture of my ghia rear window waiting for install.
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So want to make sure what I am seeing. You have the window inserted and then putting the t trim on the seal? _________________ 1971 Clementine Orange VW Convertible
1971 Karmann Ghia Coupe - Bahia Red
1991 Vanagon Westfalia |
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Murdlem Samba Member

Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 522 Location: Port Angeles, Washington
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Take your time, its not too hard. I used some masking tape to help hold the rubber seal in place while getting it on. Then patiently pushed the trim in. I had to move the masking tape as the trim was inserted, then pushed the tape back down. Probably took 20 - 30 minutes fir the seal and trim.
I should be installing the window soon. It's really a 2 person job. I use string wrapped 2 or 3 tines around the outside of the seal, and some silicone spray. One person outside pushing and sometimes slapping with your palm and one inside using the string to pull the seal over the lip. I've done ghia and bug windows before, front, rear, and stationary quarter windows.
Here is a picture of my ghia rear window waiting for install.
_________________ Eric Meldrum
68 Ghia
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 570 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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A-Wild wrote: |
In the final stages on 71 Windshield /Rear Window install. WCM seals weren't too bad and I left them sit overnight and noticed the fit improved in the corners.
So now the T trim. I didn't have much luck with this today and as I ready through the thread there seems to be some folks installing the glass then going back and installing the trim.
Curious if anyone has dont or not done this in the past few years. Open to thoughts and ideas on how to get this trim in that slot. |
T.Trim goes in the seal before installing the glass and extremely difficult even for experienced glass guys. Best to call around and find an old guy who knows his stuff |
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A-Wild Samba Member

Joined: January 14, 2013 Posts: 66 Location: Edmond, OK
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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In the final stages on 71 Windshield /Rear Window install. WCM seals weren't too bad and I left them sit overnight and noticed the fit improved in the corners.
So now the T trim. I didn't have much luck with this today and as I ready through the thread there seems to be some folks installing the glass then going back and installing the trim.
Curious if anyone has dont or not done this in the past few years. Open to thoughts and ideas on how to get this trim in that slot. _________________ 1971 Clementine Orange VW Convertible
1971 Karmann Ghia Coupe - Bahia Red
1991 Vanagon Westfalia |
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Peter D. Samba Member

Joined: February 25, 2004 Posts: 754 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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I purchased windshield and rear window rubbers from Westcoast Metric a couple of years ago and they were blocked in the corners. _________________ 2019 Golf Alltrack, '65 Ghia Coupe Restoration in Progress |
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Marcdeb Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2019 Posts: 3254 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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I finished installing the windshield in my 71 Ghia Vert today. I installed one windshield in a 61 Pontiac 30 years ago and I don't recall that it was any big deal but needless to say, being so long ago, that experience didn't provide any confidence. It went well so I would like to share what worked for me and hope that others benefit from these notes.
I think I read just about every thread and watched several videos in preparation. I had an original style seal with T profile trim and blocked corners. I prepped the windshield the night before and then one hour before installation, I put the windshield all assembled in the seal in the sun to warm it up. My wife and I did the work together. The first attempt failed after I managed to slip the glass out of the channel. I removed the glass and started over. This time it took us 20 minutes and it was done.
I used 4 conductor telephone wire for my pull cord. It is very flexible, strong, and perfectly round. I overlapped each end at the center of the bottom about 3 inches.
While watching an installation video, I noticed that the small outside flap often needs to be carefully pulled out over the surrounding metal. To help with this I decided to run a string in this groove, just like the large groove that gets pulled over the metal lip. This worked great. As we was working the inside rubber over the lip, I would periodically pull the string to lift the outside rubber flap over the frame. These pictures show the larger phone wire in the installation groove, and the string in the outside outer groove. In the 3rd picture, I drew a diagram. "A" is where I used string to lift the rubber outer flap. "B" is rubber channel that gets lifted over the metal lip.
I used Silicone Spray for lubricating. I sprayed it into a small cup and brushed it on the outer side of the metal lip. I also brushed it on the rubber flap that gets pulled in by the rope, as well as on the inner edges that get pulled into the recessed edges of the frame. Here's a drawing showing where I applied the silicone. In the diagram above, the red areas is where I brushed on the Silicone spray.
Successful Installation.
_________________ Marc
68 Karmann Ghia Cabrio Autostick
71 Karmann Ghia Cabrio
Previously Owned:
2011 VW EOS Hard Top Conv
2008 Saab 9-3 2.0T Conv
2003 Saab 9-3 SE Conv
2001 Saab 9-3 Conv
1998 BMW 3 Series Conv
1997 Saab 900 Conv
1997 Mazda Miata
68 Ghia Vert Survivor with 22,350 miles: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=768107&highlight=
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 570 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Thanks guys, I'll probably be ordering the KGPR molded seals:) and will post up when done. |
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kiwighia68 Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2013 Posts: 2943 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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The KGP&R molded windshield rubbers (front and rear windshields) fit like a glove and makes the installation a cinch. _________________ Festina lente - hasten slowly
1968 Ghia named Emiko
Resto completed Dec 2015 |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8237 Location: San Dimas
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 570 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Any opinions on the KGPR molded trim that holds the chrome seals? |
Looking at your gallery....you have a 69-70?.. Your trim should be the Aluminum T-style. Dont order seals for Chrome trim, it will only be confusing.
You should be good to go with the KGPR blocked seal. |
I have a 70. Didn't know there was a difference between the chrome and aluminum so thanks for the heads up.
I'll probably order the KGPR but stings a little since i already paid for this non molded; ( |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8237 Location: San Dimas
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member

Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5225 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Mrfun2fly wrote: |
CiderGuy wrote: |
Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Anyone have success using "non-blocked" seals for the front and back windshield?
The seal kit I ordered came w/non-blocked so hoping for tips (other than toss the non-blocked in the trash:)-
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I try and return it and see if you can pay a little more and get the blocked window seals. |
I would love to but ordered it a year ago from Pinasco who was not easy to deal with then. So not much hope there:(
KGPR has a molded seal for $80 so thinking I should bit the bullet.
Any opinions on the KGPR molded trim that holds the chrome seals? |
Positive opinion. Look back at my post on page 1. The gasket came from KGPR. The car pictured is my last Ghia. Since that time I have sold that car and restored another Ghia. That restoration included a new windshield install with the KGP&R gasket. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 570 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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CiderGuy wrote: |
Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Anyone have success using "non-blocked" seals for the front and back windshield?
The seal kit I ordered came w/non-blocked so hoping for tips (other than toss the non-blocked in the trash:)-
Thanks! |
I try and return it and see if you can pay a little more and get the blocked window seals. |
I would love to but ordered it a year ago from Pinasco who was not easy to deal with then. So not much hope there:(
KGPR has a molded seal for $80 so thinking I should bit the bullet.
Any opinions on the KGPR molded trim that holds the chrome seals? |
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CiderGuy Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2013 Posts: 1351 Location: Bucks County, Pa
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Mrfun2fly wrote: |
Anyone have success using "non-blocked" seals for the front and back windshield?
The seal kit I ordered came w/non-blocked so hoping for tips (other than toss the non-blocked in the trash:)-
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I try and return it and see if you can pay a little more and get the blocked window seals. _________________ ----------------------
Cars Currently Owned:
1970 Karmann Ghia Coupe
1973 Karmann Ghia Coupe - Project car for sale
1970 Karmann Ghia Convertible (Body off restoration)
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Mrfun2fly Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2015 Posts: 570 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Another Victim to the Ghia Window Installation... |
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Anyone have success using "non-blocked" seals for the front and back windshield?
The seal kit I ordered came w/non-blocked so hoping for tips (other than toss the non-blocked in the trash:)-
Thanks! |
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61 BUS  Samba Member

Joined: January 05, 2005 Posts: 708 Location: Tucson, Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Just finished installing the windshield in my 74. It takes the t-shaped trim. Put the rubber on the glass first, then installed the chrome trim, then put string in the mounting slot, then taped the trim about every 8 inches to keep the trim in place. Once that was done, it only took about a half an hour to install the windshield. Used a little silicone spray on the metal windshield frame of the car and it popped right in.  _________________ 61 Bus, 76 Beetle, 2001 Eurovan GLS, 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth, 47 Plymouth Business Coupe, 58 BMW Isetta 300 |
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kevin3406 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: |
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OK you're right. won't happen again. (second apology) can we move on now? yayy _________________ [insert various aircooled vehicles here] if the women dont find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.- Red Green |
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Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 14222 Location: Southampton U.K.
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kevin3406 Samba Member

Joined: August 02, 2010 Posts: 296 Location: pacolet, s.c.
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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i stand corrected my friends. i shouldve known not to post an opinion. oops my bad. sorry volks. lol. chrome trim is good. [keep it original right?] _________________ [insert various aircooled vehicles here] if the women dont find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.- Red Green |
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