Body came off the pan today. Check out the body dolly I made

Bella Ghia

Glad to see everyone still building the Bella body dolly!
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jpjohns · Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:24 pm Post subject:

I love this thread every time I read it.
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jwold · Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject:

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Straps were for lifting the cross member so I could get the new 24" riser sections in, they were still about 2" short to clear the shock towers!

motorhead364 · Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject:

Used your general dimensions and built mine. Couldn't find that big of a caster so I went with 5". I made my risers 2'. Rest is the same

Got some cleanup to do now so I can really get going
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jwold · Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:17 am Post subject:

Also keep in mind the wheels that are pictured in Bella's pictoral are pretty tall. I made a dolly recently but didn't realize (till now) that the body on the dolly wouldn't clear the shock towers, so I made my verticle peices 24 inches so I can roll the pan under the dolly, and will also make getting under the car for welding & repair that much easier.

hpw · Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject:

Something I found out about this wood dolly that others in the future may

want to know......I built mine in place on the car. It seems everyone was

building the frame and putting the body onto the dolly. But this is what I

did and it worked. Removed the front tires. drums/discs, motor/tranny

already out and horizontal 4x4's slid into place....then I lowered the pan

down instead of having to find others to help me lift the body. I was able

to do the whole thing by myself, except for a few minutes of holding the

long 4x4 with the dollies already bolted on. Clear as mud Question

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Gary '62 · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: Pan off restoration

Just had my ghia on the ramp the floorpan both sides heater channels and cills are shot, also the front and back of the pan where it meets the body, the previous owner sold it on to me with a line of partial restoration needed an impulse buy off ebay!! what can I say, always wanted a ghia so, on closer inspection its all or nothing.I have a 68 bug auto stick as a daily driver so the ghia is going to get the works, I have never seperated a pan and body before so could do with a walk through on the process has anyone got time to give me a tutorial?

thanks

Gary '62 ghia

dc2 · Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: hi great idea

looks good ill have to build one of those now for my ghia resto. good luck
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swhitcomb · Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:07 am Post subject:

I made mine and put my Ghia on it last weekend.

Now I can get to working on the underside of the car again. Have a new heater channel to go in, and a new drivers rear fender to follow.

stang68001 · Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:59 am Post subject:

Worked Perfectly! So with some minimal help from my brave wife (quickly moving underneath the car to put the last 4x4 in place, we perfected the 2 person lift using a partially collapsible body dolly. looking at the pictures, it almost make me want to put hydraulics on the ghia! (almost, but not enough)
I used 30" uprights and 4" heavy duty casters, which gave lots of clearance.

MYFIRSTCAR · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: NICE

Great job. I like the idea of using wood. We all tend to think metal but wood does the trick and is easier to work with unless you cut it too short! Thanks for sharing and keep everyone updated!

stang68001 · Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject:

awesome idea... I'm going to make one this weekend w some slight tricked out mods. If you make on end detachable, you can raise the rear of the body and slide the dolly in, then raise the front of the body and attach the front of the dolly. I have drawings but no clue how to post them. This makes it possible to lift the body with one person, no problem!! Solidworks renderings attached... yes i am an engineer and a proud nerd!

VolksWatson · Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject:

Are 4X4 boards a requirement? It seems like you could use 2X4s in some areas. I would think the legs would need to be 4x4s, where as some of the sides may be 2X4s... As you can tell I am not a structural engineer...

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delibessleep · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:34 am Post subject:

This is an excellent thread. I am nearing a pan-off for my ghia, and this is very helpful.

My ghia's body is in reasonably good condition...no rot or cancer at the heater channels and only mild surface rust on the body. I have to replace a small section at the center rear bulkhead...near where the transmission cone is. other than that, it's pretty solid.

The floor is toast though...needs complete replacement. Oddly, this body has been off before. The body is a 69 on a 71 pan...many of the bolts securing the pan to the body were brand new...that is, where they decided to put a bolt...I think there were 2 holding the passenger side floor pan to the channel! none in the back by the shock towers, 3 in the back bulkhead connection...all came out with ease. the 4 bolts underneath the front bulk head were there, and loosened up fine...

I don't want to remove anything off the body I don't have to...such as the glass, etc. probably not a good idea, but my goal is to replace the floor boards, replace the entire brake system, inspect the body for unseen nastiness, hit everything with "rust bullet" or "POR-15" and get it back together quickly.

Anyway...to those that removed their Ghia bodies, what advice or step did you forget in the process, or any other "I would do it this way next time" information would you lend? I am planning to build the dolly today(very nice by the way.)

Also, I have new floor sections, painted the factory black. Obviously I want to cure these with rust proofing...should I blast the pans to get the paint off? What did you do?

Thanks!

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Ozzie · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject:

Bella, that's awesome. I'm space deficient myself and your dolly just made the permanant file. Kudos. Very Happy

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westcoast-paul · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:

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smuenchrath · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:01 am Post subject:

I plan on building the dolly based on the dimensions that Bella Ghia was nice enough to share in a few weeks. This will be used for my 68 Vert but we also have a 54 Oval that needs to come off the pan as well. Anyone know if the dimensions would be able to work for both?


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