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metahacker Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 926 Location: san.diego
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| On the jalousie/slider debate, I will use a slider on the sliding door, and a jalousie on the other side. Jalousie windows tend to rattle too much, and the slider seems to exacerbate that issue. I like sliders, and I have one with a screen, but being able to have an open window during a rainstorm is a good thing for camping. |
I'm with you.
My favorite config on a Bay (so far) is dual rear slider windows, a slider window on the sliding door, and a jalousie on the driver's side middle spot.
I'd be curious about trying one vent window on the rear driver's side (with 2 sliders on PS and a jalousie on DS), though... for a a bit more fine-tuned control over airflow.
A jalousie on the sliding door is much more useful than fixed glass, but does feel kinda janky flopping around, and all that door slamming doesn't help things any.
Having a driver's side jalousie, with the screen and the ability to basically leave it open all the time, even in the rain.... is pretty ideal, IMO.
I also like running the opposite-side jalousies (e.g. passenger side on the driver side) so you can operate the knob from the front seat.... it's easy to reach behind you and open/close while driving.
The repro jalousies are also really nice quality. With near zero play in them, they are much nicer to keep open while driving... although, doing that is usually what gives them all that play - as the Westie manual text warns...as the kids used to say - yolo...
I've seen 2 styles of outer seal - one black and one grey...had better luck with the grey ones, but like the way the black one looks... also seen the inner one around a bit, used to only see them from UK bus vendors, some guys on UK ebay, but that was awhile back... it looks like everyone has them now Wolfsburg West, CSP, Bus-OK, JustKampers and others ... all seem to carry it 231-069-414 or 231-898-413 depending on who you ask apparently? |
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dames Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2012 Posts: 98 Location: uk
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Side vent wing to jalousie conversion, pics and tips |
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[quote="wagohn"]Realize this is an old thread, but just did this on my Transporter. We're slowly converting to a Westy Weekender. Easy fit.
Looks great. I see those inner seals mentioned further back in the thread are available repro. Would look good with your headliner. |
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otiswesty Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1770 Location: Portland
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Side vent wing to jalousie conversion, pics and tips |
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Looks great nice job. I think the hardest part of building the weekender is finding a headbanger cabinet that fits the headliner tintop ceiling. Keep an eye on the classifieds, they pop up every now and then. _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
1988 T3 Syncro Single cab
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wagohn Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 744 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Side vent wing to jalousie conversion, pics and tips |
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Realize this is an old thread, but just did this on my Transporter. We're slowly converting to a Westy Weekender. Easy fit.
_________________ 1976 VW Transporter, 2.0 FI Engine |
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Tcash Samba Member

Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12843 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Chillaxer Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2015 Posts: 1 Location: Gaffney, SC
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm trying to find screens or how to install some screen on our jalousie windows on a 74 campmobile. I see people who have replaced the windows, but not the screens. Any advice? Thanks! |
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cdennisg Samba Member

Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20955 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Glad I found this thread in my searching for how to install jalousie windows. I am putting one in the driver's side of my 70, and since I removed it from a donor 68 about 6 years ago, I could not recall how it was held into place. I also have the rubber interior trim piece to finish off the install.
On the jalousie/slider debate, I will use a slider on the sliding door, and a jalousie on the other side. Jalousie windows tend to rattle too much, and the slider seems to exacerbate that issue. I like sliders, and I have one with a screen, but being able to have an open window during a rainstorm is a good thing for camping. _________________ Confusious say it takes it takes two wipes to know you need three, but it takes three wipes to know it only needed two. |
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PicklePickle Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2008 Posts: 933 Location: Gonzales, LA
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I was so happy to ditch the Jalousies from my bus.
Here's what I've learned. Jalousies are much louder going down the road. They allow way more air in while driving (hence a good portion of the noise) and that sucks when it is really cold out. What little good the heater does is completely annihilated by the air leakage from Jalousies. They are generally impractical to use on a regular bus. No one wants to take the time to crank them out and back in constantly when using the bus as a daily driver. In fact, cranking them in and out incessantly wears on the gearing. They were meant for occasional cranking, not in and out several times a day.
If you are thinking about DRIVING with them out, then get ready for even more noise. They are anything but aerodynamic.
Jalousies were designed to be used with the camper for camping. They make very little sense on a regular bus unless you intend to use your standard bus as a camper, and plan to put them out while camping.
If you just need a screen while camping, then there are a few people who make magnetic screens. A quick google search turned up these right here on thesamba: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=623907 You can get screens for the front and side windows.
It's just my two cents. I'm sure you'll see every argument why they're the best thing since sliced bread, but as I said, I've had both and the sliders are WAY more appropriate for a standard bus--so much so that I paid over $300 to change them over and that was with me doing all the work! _________________ "Aircooled VWs are like roaches in that if you let one in, they'll soon be nesting all around you in great numbers."
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MOX Samba Member

Joined: December 12, 2006 Posts: 879 Location: OTTAWA
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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awesome thread, i am going to put jalousies in my transporter soon and this answered everything!  |
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thewalrus Big Jack

Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 3014 Location: Belchertown, MA
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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As promised:
My bottom curles in too like everyone elses _________________ '73 Transporter 1.7L Dual Carb
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| You ran over some #Vanlife'ers hopes and dreams? |
| 60vwnewengland wrote: |
| Looking forward to next weekend, weed, krunk juice, hookers, blow, hanging with bums, philly, ...the awards! |
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thewalrus Big Jack

Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 3014 Location: Belchertown, MA
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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It actually came to me. I have a big mouth and was talking at a car show and the right person heard me and just HAPPEN to be a fellow bus owner and had and extra seal. I knew this was probably my only oppertunity to get one locally, so $40 later I had one! Beats the $100+ price tag on Samba. It really cleans up the look of the window and (in my opinion) finishes off the interior. Through lots of Samba searching I found out they only came on '68, '69 and MAYBE '70 camper models but then for whatever reason Westfalia stopped producing them. Shame really...
I'll post some Picts of mine this weekend when I'm out working on her
EDIT: Here's a few topic on them:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...p;start=20
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...mp;start=0 _________________ '73 Transporter 1.7L Dual Carb
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| You ran over some #Vanlife'ers hopes and dreams? |
| 60vwnewengland wrote: |
| Looking forward to next weekend, weed, krunk juice, hookers, blow, hanging with bums, philly, ...the awards! |
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vw-traveller Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2005 Posts: 14 Location: SF bay area
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: WOW! |
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Oh my god you found an inner seal. So you say these only came on the early westys?
How did you find it? |
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thewalrus Big Jack

Joined: March 27, 2006 Posts: 3014 Location: Belchertown, MA
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dish soap works better and isn't as hard to clean up after.
I say that the Jalousie inner seal on the real early campers should of been standard for the entire Westy run:
(Not mine but I hunted one down and WOW does it finish off the look of the whole window!) _________________ '73 Transporter 1.7L Dual Carb
| notchboy wrote: |
| You ran over some #Vanlife'ers hopes and dreams? |
| 60vwnewengland wrote: |
| Looking forward to next weekend, weed, krunk juice, hookers, blow, hanging with bums, philly, ...the awards! |
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vw-traveller Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2005 Posts: 14 Location: SF bay area
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: re: grease |
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yeah grease!
Otherwsie the rubber is really sticky and will most likely get pulled out of the grove |
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Desertbusman Samba Member

Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Another consideration is that sliders can only open to half of the window opening. But the jalousie's fully open. Or at least 90% worth. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
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silverside61 Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2007 Posts: 505 Location: Winterport, Me
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!! I was considering sliders but the lack of screens was an issue. You can't leave sliders open if it's raining. I could only find sliders out west and shipping would have killed me; if they even survived. Plus, I had this set already from my last bus. I love the look and can't wait to go camping.  |
screens in sliders are rare? cool mine has screens in both, they don't seem like that hard a thing to have or make. and they are inside. but it is a riviera, so maybe thats why |
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Air_Cooled_Nut Samba Member

Joined: March 27, 2004 Posts: 3069 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just got my louvered windows in.
My Tip:
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Use the rope trick to avoid the seal's corners getting stuck. |
Boy, I'm glad someone finally said that. Using a hammer? Eeesh  _________________ Toby http://www.aircoolednut.com/
Did I mention that I'm an original Darksider?
'72 VW Squareback, 2007cc, GB 5-speed, rag top; '76 VW Riviera Penthouse Sundowner 2.0L; 2015 Audi S5 Cabby w/Stage II APR; '06 Ducati Sport Classic 1000; '14 Ducati Diavel Strada
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 53108 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Grease??????? |
X2....Grease??!!??!!? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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Desertbusman Samba Member

Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Grease??????? _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
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vw-traveller Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2005 Posts: 14 Location: SF bay area
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Just got my louvered windows in.
My Tip:
Put a boatload of grease on both the Seal and the Frame of the bus.
Use the rope trick to avoid the seal's corners getting stuck. |
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