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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

A couple decades ago, I put a set of Bilsteins on the rear of my 1980 Westy. I felt they were a little too firm, so I bought some stock spec Sachs shocks. (I put the Bilsteins on my 1982 diesel that I used in my business and very often it was loaded fully and sometimes a little overloaded. They controlled it well.)
Next shocks I buy will likely be Konis.
I think Bilsteins are by far the best for racing.
For normal long life good performance, I think the Konis are a good choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

r39o wrote:


I am on stock Carat springs in my 1990 MV and have Konis in. Been in for a long time. They seem stiff these days.

So since all soft is like stock.

And the above thinks half way is OK for a weekender, I guess I go half way.


Good to read, I just got a set of Koni Reds and Yellow Weitechs (now called ST btw). I have a 91 MV previously with stock but sagging to the left Carat springs up front and some kinda super tall rear spring in the back, think the previous owner towed with it.

I got sick of staring at the ground while driving so hopefully the lower progressive rear springs give it a bit better rake. I'll post an update when it's all back together.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

Hey r39o, the sway bar and shocks address different things... sway bar is actually anti-sway and improves handling, especially cornering and steering response. Shocks dampen the springs to keep a smooth ride.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

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I am on stock Carat springs in my 1990 MV and have Konis in. Been in for a long time. They seem stiff these days.

So since all soft is like stock.

And the above thinks half way is OK for a weekender, I guess I go half way.

Next fly in the ointment, though is I have Addco front and rear anti sway bars laying around.

If I adjust the shocks to my liking, might I not like them after the bars are added or what?????
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

My guestimate would be about half way through the range.

From my understanding, Koni's softest setting is about equal to factory shocks. I am running Weitec Springs and have the shocks nearly at max.

Note - I expected "clicks" for each setting on the shocks, found that they are "infinitely adjustable" between min and max.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

takeiteasy wrote:
I am about to install koni reds and gowesty 0 lift on the rear of and '85 weekender. Anybody have a koni setting they like on their weekender?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

I am about to install koni reds and gowesty 0 lift on the rear of and '85 weekender. Anybody have a koni setting they like on their weekender?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

Okay, thank you very much!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

They come with the nut but not the bushing. Bushing and washer is available from van cafe.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Koni shocks Reply with quote

Hey guys,

quick off topic question:
Do the Konis come with the upper rubber bushings and nuts for the front shocks?

Mine are shot and I need new ones.
If not - where do I get those best?

Thanks for your help.

Are there yellow and red Konis??? This is how I know them from my other cars. Red was gas, Yellow oil.

Thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Koni Classic Red on my '90 Carat w. highest setting and I like them...

my other '90 Carat has Bilstein HD they are good but I feel they're a bit soft to my liking...

well... you need to adjust to your taste... but the Koni Red are not easy to adjust once they are on the van...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riiiiiight...learn something everyday if I'm not careful...thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riiiiiight...learn something everyday if I'm not careful...thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldhuldy67 wrote:

I set them on their softest setting and the plan is to stiffen them up as needed.

The adjustment on the Koni's is for the rebound only. Not for the compression.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stock 2WD 1980 Westy...Replaced my OG 33 year old shocks with Konis and guess what..it drove and handled so much better...duh..
I set them on their softest setting and the plan is to stiffen them up as needed.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:55 pm    Post subject: lowering DOKA Reply with quote

ame wrote:
Just bought a 2WD Doka and want to lower it. Is the Dokas suspension the same as a vanagon? Was hoping to go with Weitec springs and koni shocks.

Thanks.


I had Weitecs with Bilsteins in a 2wd Doka. Very stiff. Coming out of Seattle on I5 I was bouncing in the air like a low rider. Too stiff and couldn't respond in time. I like the lowered look but would go with Carat springs and Konis myself based on comments from others and on my experience. But the Weitec with koni might be a better combo than what I experienced. Just a thought.

And to your original question, the 2wd Doka setup will be the same as the Vanagon GL.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks..wheels are 15", I have to check my tires.. Can't remember.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply. Your van looks great. What size are your wheels and tires?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ame wrote:
Just bought a 2WD Doka and want to lower it. Is the Dokas suspension the same as a vanagon? Was hoping to go with Weitec springs and koni shocks.

Thanks.

Pretty sure their the same.. I had an 85 tintop that I installed
Koni and weitech combo.. Great handling and big diff of course.
I have the konis and h&r blue springs in my Wolfsburg. It's great too.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bought a 2WD Doka and want to lower it. Is the Dokas suspension the same as a vanagon? Was hoping to go with Weitec springs and koni shocks.

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