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RichOakley
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| are bd hubcaps different to early (ie pre 55ish) beetle? or the same? |
Pretty certain they would be exactly the same. Same factory, same press tools etc. and modern mass production techniques would ensure a commonality of parts wherever possible. |
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RockStock
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| An old thread i know, but i just wanted to know if the logo in the centre should be painted black or red? If red is correct what red is used |
two period pics
A 'How To' on painting hubcap logos (thanks to whoever posted it):
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| First, clean the cap completely as best you can but keep from getting any kind of wax or chemical residue on it. Using very fine steel wool and dish soap works really well for that part. You can simply spray paint the entire stamped area of the cap, not worrying about overspray as we will clean that up after it dries. Next, find a old cotton t shirt or rag of like material. Then get a small flat block, possibly wood, about the size of a dish sponge. You are going to wrap the t shirt material around it snuggly and dab that over the mouth of a container of acetone or laquer thinner. You want it perfectly flat on the bottom surface of the block. Also, it is important to NOT soak the shirt as you don't want it so wet that it runs down into the lower sections of the VW stamping. Basically, you just use the flat edge of the block to buff off the high spots of overspray and leave just the paint in the stamped impression. Make sense? It will likely take a couple of passes and there will likely be a residue from the dissolved paint but just let that dry and once dry it will easily polish off with chrome polish. That will also leave your caps waxed and shiny as can be. It sounds complicated I suppose but it's super easy and the results are worlds better than trying your luck of holding your hand steady and paint brushing in the logos |
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Anchovy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| The original hub caps for my '54 are obviously different in terms of the VW stamping than later caps. As mentioned before the depth and shape of the stamping varies when you have caps side by side. For the restoration we chromed the caps and had the center section a matte finish like they came from the factory. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| An old thread i know, but i just wanted to know if the logo in the centre should be painted black or red? If red is correct what red is used. |
for a barndoor deluxe the center should be red. I am not sure if it is exactly sealingwax red. for the standard buses, it is the light brown color.
I had a few original paint red center caps earlier this year, but I gave them away since a friend of mine needed them for his barndoor deluxe, and I had no real need for them. he still needs one red center cap if anyone has one.
here is a pic that I took of a rare original paint barndoor hubcap.
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janerick3
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| Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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The NOS set of early Type 2 hubcaps that was making the rounds at most of the northeast (US) swap meets during the late '80s and early '90s had logos painted Sealing Wax Red.
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Rusting Hulk
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An old thread i know, but i just wanted to know if the logo in the centre should be painted black or red? If red is correct what red is used.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I did notice that the center vw chromed has been brushed probly when the painted the vw they brushed the whole center for prep? |
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RockStock
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are bd hubcaps different to early (ie pre 55ish) beetle? or the same?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| The recessed portion is not chromed like the later hubcaps were. |
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Rusting Hulk
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And i thought i was getting near the end of my ' parts wanted' list, and up pops another part that i didnt really know about
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merz356
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I just looked at the 53 cap and compared it to a late 50's cap.The stamping is much deeper or more raised. You also tell easly by feel.
Now to go check my stash of old hub caps. |
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Lind
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I guess we will be having a few beers together here very shortly....
I have one of those aircleaners! |
yeah, I am looking forward to it. only a week away.
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I just looked at the 53 cap and compared it to a late 50's cap.The stamping is much deeper or more raised. You also tell easly by feel.
Now to go check my stash of old hub caps. |
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merz356
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the indentation of the logo,how it's pressed in and the split I believe inbetween the v and the w...something like that,You have to see them side my side to really see it
Hey jim,do you know anyone who might be interested in a pretty original,rust free 51 standard beetle,Original motor,etc.
I have a link if you want to see some pics |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Lets see some pics showing how split and barndoor caps are diffrent from later. The pic I posted is one of 4 that came of a Og 53 deluxe I belive they are orig. The bus they came off was a nice low mile bus. |
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merz356
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I guess we will be having a few beers together here very shortly....
I have one of those aircleaners! |
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Lind
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Barndoors and Splits had the same CAP...and YES they are Different
The Original ones that is...Take Note Lind !
I have a Photo Steve Wood sent me back in 95-96' showing me this difference.
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I only said the size was the same.
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merz356
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Barndoors and Splits had the same CAP...and YES they are Different
The Original ones that is...Take Note Lind !
I have a Photo Steve Wood sent me back in 95-96' showing me this difference.
I don't have any |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| yup 15 and 16 the same size hubcap. |
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eddiemoney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| vw-in-neptune wrote: |
| stpuid question. is this hubcap the same size as others ie. non-barndoors? |
yes, the hubcap is the same size |
so let me get this right, a bd hubcap even though they are 16 inch wheels right? still fit 15 inch wheels?
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