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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Thanks biggestdaddyo, I have been so frustrated and now because of you I'm feeling better. Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Installed and I don't know how. It will need more massaging but no time for that right now. Reposting on my build thread as I don't know how the black plastic gasket is supposed to stay in place. I will never ever own a poptop again as they are a total PITA, hardtop or sub hatch only. I hope to change my mind once I use it for camping and find standing up a benefit.
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After camping in my pop-top for about 18 years now, I would not have a tin-top. For me the big benefit is ventilation. This thing really acts like a cupola on an old barn. Heat rises and this venting action pulls new air in through the jalousie windows and right out the top. Also standing inside while loading, changing or just stretching is wonderful. Try it - you'll like it!  |
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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biggestdaddyo Samba Member

Joined: August 25, 2004 Posts: 131 Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
Installed and I don't know how. It will need more massaging but no time for that right now. Reposting on my build thread as I don't know how the black plastic gasket is supposed to stay in place. I will never ever own a poptop again as they are a total PITA, hardtop or sub hatch only. I hope to change my mind once I use it for camping and find standing up a benefit.
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After camping in my pop-top for about 18 years now, I would not have a tin-top. For me the big benefit is ventilation. This thing really acts like a cupola on an old barn. Heat rises and this venting action pulls new air in through the jalousie windows and right out the top. Also standing inside while loading, changing or just stretching is wonderful. Try it - you'll like it!  _________________
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5596 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Thanks Chris working on it this weekend
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Use those plywood wedges and spring clamps so that you have the whole thing clamped in place the way you want it before driving any staples. |
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Use those plywood wedges and spring clamps so that you have the whole thing clamped in place the way you want it before driving any staples. |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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srfndoc wrote: |
Trust me, having a poptop is huge when camping. Being able to stand up for changing or stretching is nice plus the added screened ventilation really helps.
Once you get this all done you will be good for another 20 years. |
Thanks srfndoc, that is the carrot in front of my face that keeps me going but today, yesterday and tomorrow I still prefer sub-hatch or hard top I'll just reread your statement to push forward.
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I found it easier to start in each corner after you made sure it was centered, then work your way around that way. |
crofty I wish I knew that prior to my start as GoWesty told me the same exact thing in an email from them today. But I will measure it with a dressmakers tape before renting the stapler again. What a PITA and I don't want to take it apart again but I unfortunately need to. _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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crofty Judas of the North

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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I found it easier to start in each corner after you made sure it was centered, then work your way around that way. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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srfndoc Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Trust me, having a poptop is huge when camping. Being able to stand up for changing or stretching is nice plus the added screened ventilation really helps.
Once you get this all done you will be good for another 20 years. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5596 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Installed and I don't know how. It will need more massaging but no time for that right now. Reposting on my build thread as I don't know how the black plastic gasket is supposed to stay in place. I will never ever own a poptop again as they are a total PITA, hardtop or sub hatch only. I hope to change my mind once I use it for camping and find standing up a benefit.
_________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15225 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Never have I done one but what if you were to measure the distance around the poptop surface then gently pre stretch on the sewn part until one of those cloth mercantile tapes measured around the sewn part would equal the same? I have had to do that with MG top stuff before attaching them. |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3856 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Looks like you have some kitterferance getting it installed correctly  |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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After lots of pulling last night it did get better but I'll have to "massage" a bit more this morning as the really nice rental staple gun goes back to Home Depot today. And yes I have the plastic strip at the top as well as the gray plastic strip for the bottom. I was lucky to buy an original grey strip from someone who rarely lists on this site many years ago. None of the parts I have gathered were cheap but I was patient, selective and purchased original high quality which is why it has taken so long to get this done. _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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delx23 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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LAGrunthaner wrote: |
Finally located a decent staple gun to rent but having some trouble "after stapling in the yellow poptop from GOwesty.com. It is short and I pulled it going around......contacting them now. Am I doing something wrong?
Not sure what to do, is it possible they made it short? |
Usually they go in tight and you don't have a lot missing to get it to that corner..
They could have made it too short.. but if you take some of the staples off and pull it in, you should be able to get it to fit..
did you get the gray plastic strip from bus depot?
Keep going you r doing a good job |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5596 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Finally located a decent staple gun to rent but having some trouble "after stapling in the yellow poptop from GOwesty.com. It is short and I pulled it going around......contacting them now. Am I doing something wrong?
Not sure what to do, is it possible they made it short? _________________ American Red Cross Safe And Well:
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Lind wrote: |
Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Nails may be what I use because I'm not happy with how my electric stable gun is working out. Or at least under the plastic strip
crofty wrote: |
Mine is nailed to the wood per original. Id only do that after you install the canvas completely. |
OK Starting at the front grabbing a bit of that black band too then side window to side window. Can you tell me if it is stapled at the yellow canvas directly first then the plastic strip or is it stapled only through the plastic strip onto the yellow canvas?
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Do not jump around with the staples. I centered the front window screen and worked around in one direction. Again- I recall just catching the black seem with all of the yellow material exposed. Once you've stapled the front part of the material... center the side screen on one side and staple that side... and repeat on the other screen side. Finally, staple the back, which frankly is what it is... at this point it may not come out perfect, but hopefully the screens will look fit. |
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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jeremy57ride Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Do not jump around with the staples. I centered the front window screen and worked around in one direction. Again- I recall just catching the black seem with all of the yellow material exposed. Once you've stapled the front part of the material... center the side screen on one side and staple that side... and repeat on the other screen side. Finally, staple the back, which frankly is what it is... at this point it may not come out perfect, but hopefully the screens will look fit. _________________ "If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." -Warren Miller |
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crofty Judas of the North

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Mine is nailed to the wood per original. Id only do that after you install the canvas completely. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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I'm pretty sure this is correct so just checking before I pop the staples in. Biggest problem now is the fit, it seems short going around, note lower left of last photo. Is there a method to getting it in? Like with putting lug nuts on a wheel do I go back & forth for fit or start in one spot and try and stretch it into place?
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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LAGrunthaner  Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:36 am Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Now I see what I have wrong. yea, yea that's the perfect photo finish, thanks crofty.
I finally located all the hardware and halted the install because I need new elastic lock nuts which I am guessing will be difficult to locate.
Now I can see what you drew jeremy57ride, I'm so glad I didn't staple it in yesterday.
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Ain't pretty... but maybe??
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Got it thanks srfndoc.
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This picture shows it pretty well as part of the canvas is ripped away so you can get a better idea of how it was done:
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Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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hitest Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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Think hoodie. You more or less drape the canvas over your head and staple it upward- remembering inside vs. outside. While you are stapling- you are looking straight out into blue sky through your open top because it is hanging over your head like the veil of a freshly revealed bride!
I started after numerous test fits from the center of each straight section- working toward the corners to get the tension close. Then you pull it back over yourself and let it hang from the tack strip- if that makes sense. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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crofty Judas of the North

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Q: SO-42 poptop material colour...? |
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_________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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