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Douglas Denlinger
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Went thru that on the March of 55....every and I mean every stainless that I have or have found are broken. Wolfsburg thing....can't answer that to any degree of certainty.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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Not sure I have noticed this before. Working on a '56 Wolfsburg Bus, window latches, it has stainless outers, that are pressed around cast center. A Wolfsburg thing?
Stainless on left:
Stainless on right:
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| campingbox wrote: |
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| my 1/56 deluxe came with the speedo in the early green and lighter brown face but came with no clock...anyone have a bus with the original clock and early colored speedo that can verify wether they match or if the clock has the later paint scheme. |
The "green face" is from the dial being sunfaded. The early inks fade differently than the later ones. If you dissasemble it and look at the edges hidden away they will match the later speedos. I haven't ran into too many green speedos in the Pacific NorthWest.....guess then only come from sunny places like California. |
Is this still the consensus? I see quite a few restored greenfaced speedos in the classifieds.
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Douglas Denlinger wrote: |
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| Both of my Wolfsburg buses have 5? drain holes in the front cab floor, drilled in a line across the forward edge, before the floor angles up. They have rubber plugs on one bus, similar to those at the forward edge of the cargo floor. One bus is April 55 and the other is June 55. I am too lazy to see if its mentioned already but I didnt recall seeing it. I have had 3 other wolfsburg buses betweem 10/55 and 4/56 and i dont recall if they had it but I think I would have remembered. Perhaps an early wolfsburg item? |
Has nobody else got these drain holes in the front cab floor? They sure look factory. |
Yes, March of 55 |
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:40 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Anyone have a photo of the drain plugs on the cab floor? |
My bus is stored away off site for the winter. I can get pics later. They are the same or similar to the plugs used on the leading edge of the cargo floor |
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rocketpower
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:29 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Anyone have a photo of the drain plugs on the cab floor? |
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Douglas Denlinger
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Both of my Wolfsburg buses have 5? drain holes in the front cab floor, drilled in a line across the forward edge, before the floor angles up. They have rubber plugs on one bus, similar to those at the forward edge of the cargo floor. One bus is April 55 and the other is June 55. I am too lazy to see if its mentioned already but I didnt recall seeing it. I have had 3 other wolfsburg buses betweem 10/55 and 4/56 and i dont recall if they had it but I think I would have remembered. Perhaps an early wolfsburg item? |
Has nobody else got these drain holes in the front cab floor? They sure look factory. |
Yes, March of 55
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Both of my Wolfsburg buses have 5? drain holes in the front cab floor, drilled in a line across the forward edge, before the floor angles up. They have rubber plugs on one bus, similar to those at the forward edge of the cargo floor. One bus is April 55 and the other is June 55. I am too lazy to see if its mentioned already but I didnt recall seeing it. I have had 3 other wolfsburg buses betweem 10/55 and 4/56 and i dont recall if they had it but I think I would have remembered. Perhaps an early wolfsburg item? |
Has nobody else got these drain holes in the front cab floor? They sure look factory. |
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Correct. Weld nuts were barndoor. |
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EverettB 
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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I haven't seen an exact date and couldn't find it listed in Progressive Refinements.
I've seen people say it's all Wolfsburg Buses, which would be until early March, 1956 but I see a couple people in this thread that had original April Buses with the long rib front bumper.
If you search on bumper in this thread you can find a bunch of random posts of Buses with the VIN #s listed.
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rocketpower
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Who knows when the pressed bumper went to short rib style on Wolfsburg busses? |
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earlywesty
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| Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Both of my Wolfsburg buses have 5? drain holes in the front cab floor, drilled in a line across the forward edge, before the floor angles up. They have rubber plugs on one bus, similar to those at the forward edge of the cargo floor. One bus is April 55 and the other is June 55. I am too lazy to see if its mentioned already but I didnt recall seeing it. I have had 3 other wolfsburg buses betweem 10/55 and 4/56 and i dont recall if they had it but I think I would have remembered. Perhaps an early wolfsburg item? |
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KBMC1304
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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Can you advise me?
Keep as is or remove the ventilations?
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Lind
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| A panel would have a 211, 14 or 215 number, tho. |
That is a normal panelvan vin plate. It reads VW 2/21. |
looking where Algeria is on the map, maybe it is one of those Portuguese panels that were converted to kombis in Portugal? they have panel vents and windows. |
This was my thought too - Portugual Bus where they got Panels delivered and locally converted them to Kombis.
My understanding is Portugal and some other delivery markets had laws that imported vehicles had have a certain amount of local parts and manufacturing done to support the local economy by creating jobs. |
I didn't find any traces of ckd in portugal before 1960's! |
I'm not sure that the Portuguese buses were delivered as CKD or just regular panels that then had conversion work done to them, but they were certainly doing that in the barndoor era.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| A panel would have a 211, 14 or 215 number, tho. |
That is a normal panelvan vin plate. It reads VW 2/21. |
looking where Algeria is on the map, maybe it is one of those Portuguese panels that were converted to kombis in Portugal? they have panel vents and windows. |
This was my thought too - Portugual Bus where they got Panels delivered and locally converted them to Kombis.
My understanding is Portugal and some other delivery markets had laws that imported vehicles had have a certain amount of local parts and manufacturing done to support the local economy by creating jobs. |
I didn't find any traces of ckd in portugal before 1960's! |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Lind wrote: |
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| A panel would have a 211, 14 or 215 number, tho. |
That is a normal panelvan vin plate. It reads VW 2/21. |
looking where Algeria is on the map, maybe it is one of those Portuguese panels that were converted to kombis in Portugal? they have panel vents and windows. |
This was my thought too - Portugual Bus where they got Panels delivered and locally converted them to Kombis.
My understanding is Portugal and some other delivery markets had laws that imported vehicles had have a certain amount of local parts and manufacturing done to support the local economy by creating jobs.
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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VIN# 20-147346 Sept/Oct era 1955 has it original US headlights with vestigial oval glass lenses.
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| Does anyone know what style headlight glass, came on early Wolfsburg busses,NAS spec April. There seems two be two options late barn door with the vestigial oval and non oval. |
April, 1955 would still be with the vestigial oval AFAIK |
I am wondering how you know this. I have been trying to figure early '55 non-barndoor headlight glass for a while, both NA and euro spec. I thought I had euro sorted but I wish there was a definitive source of information to reference, do you know of one? |
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Are the late 1955 headlight lenses special? North American equipped? Possibly the ones on my (December 1955) single cab are original? The headlight buckets seem to be original.
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| Lind wrote: |
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| A panel would have a 211, 14 or 215 number, tho. |
That is a normal panelvan vin plate. It reads VW 2/21. |
Oh, sure, that's what it is, then model 21!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Post Barndoor, Wolfsburg Bus Features And Changes |
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| A panel would have a 211, 14 or 215 number, tho. |
That is a normal panelvan vin plate. It reads VW 2/21. |
looking where Algeria is on the map, maybe it is one of those Portuguese panels that were converted to kombis in Portugal? they have panel vents and windows.
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