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Pinetops
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I haven't used it but the Nason single stage is popular around here as one of the best lower priced paints.
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since Im buying new weatherstripping I think itll be more worth it to take a couple of months to save up $$$ and buy better quality single stage automotive paint and have my bus done once but done 100% correct. itll hopefully last me 20 years and will be worth the price and the wait....I attend an automotive school and they should have a paint booth, maybe they can "practice" on my bus haha
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You might want to find out what paint system they use in your area.
Prime it in a color of your choosing, seal it and shoot a clear over it. That way when you are ready to paint it. Take it back to the primer and you will have a couple of coats of primer as a base to start with. Then you are only out the clear and primer is cheaper.
Just a thought
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Pinetops
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| and will single stage paint last me 5 years??? or more? |
My bus is mostly 48 year old original single stage paint, maybe that answers your question. VW did it the right way though. ACVW's look best in single stage in my opinion.
You attend an auto school! I'd definitely ask around, trade some favors and get it bodyworked and painted there, do it decently and you won't have to do it again in 5 years. Help them do it if you can or need to.
You're going to spend hundreds on new seals anyway, may as well paint it at the same time. Get them to take the rusty spots down to bare metal and don't slather on bondo too thick.
I think the eastwood is decent for the price. If you can get a color close to the original (or an original for the year) that would be ideal.
I can say this for sure, if you use real paint you won't wonder if you should've done the other.
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| How about marine grade rustoleum topside paint??? might be a little more durable |
There is not going to be any clear answer on this whole which way to go brother.
What would your grandpa say? Do it right the first time? You get what you pay for? Everything is relative?
I can tell you this - I painted that panel bus with the same intent you have. Put something on it that will last a couple years and look decent. Always knowing Ill come back and do it right later. I wanted to try the whole rustoleum thing and I thought it not bad. Not correct, but not bad. It suits the work horse for the moment. |
Yea notchboy, your right... Ill have to sit down with my bus and see whats my best option... I do plan on redoing it in 5 years when I save up money after college...so rustoleum or at the very least cheap car paint will have to do for now
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| How about marine grade rustoleum topside paint??? might be a little more durable |
There is not going to be any clear answer on this whole which way to go brother.
What would your grandpa say? Do it right the first time? You get what you pay for? Everything is relative?
All this is opinion based - and is lots of what you read already with style-technique-product. Bottom line is that anything you put on from water based latex paint to proper PPG professionally applied paint will protect - in varying degrees - period. Its all relative. Dont overthink it all.
I can tell you this - I painted that panel bus with the same intent you have. Put something on it that will last a couple years and look decent. Always knowing Ill come back and do it right later. I wanted to try the whole rustoleum thing and I thought it not bad. Not correct, but not bad. It suits the work horse for the moment.
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-up328/overview/
is this any good? or will it turn to sh*t???
sherwinn williams quoted me $350 for a gallon of brilliant orange l20b-single stage urethane enamel... ^would the $350 option last me like 20 years????
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mlesniak
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and will single stage paint last me 5 years??? or more?
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I prefer single stage. I get so pumped up when I have my mask on that I don't think my heart would last through a two stage day. Single stage kind of forces you to RELAX & THINK about what you are doing.
http://www.eastwood.com/paints/automotive-finishes/colors.html
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How about marine grade rustoleum topside paint??? might be a little more durable
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I do go to a technical school for auto mechanics, will have to see if their is a paint booth to my disposal or at least have a painter in training paint it...
would you advise single stage urethane enamel automotive paint against rustoleum?. Ive used rustoleum before and its a solid product but I guess theres auto paint for a reason, Do you guys have any reccomendations on single stage paint and where I can get the best bang for my buck???
however before I go any further... Is it possible to get 2 gallons of single stage paint and enough primer to paint my bus for under $250 or less?
howlong would a single stage paint job last if done right???
still leaning towards rustoleum but I may go the single stage route
if I did rustoleum then would clearcoating help out with uv and all that?
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My advice is to see if your school or one nearby offers a body shop class where you can work on your bus. There are so many advantages to doing it this way. It is not a good idea to basically glom two gallons of paint on the bus with the thought of re-doing it later. Rustoleum has its uses, it works great for the trim on the house. Take your time, there are better options.
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4 years later and the thread is back to life lol!
my bus needs a paint job on the cheapz. from what I hear, cheap car paint will look bad after a couple years and possibly crack or chip. ive seen some maaco paint jobs go really bad after just a year. im spending $400 on new window weatherstripping since mine are done-zo! that being said I definetley want to choose the cheapest paint thatll last me 3-5 without chipping or cracking...
I will get a real professional expensive paint job done right in 3-5years when I graduate college, I am thinking rustoleum because it looks like it holds its color for years. anyone have pics of their rustoleum Vw's?? or even better photo updates of some of the buses posted years ago in this same thread??? looking for advice and photos from people who have done this to their buses  |
Cheap single stage paint will last and hold up much better than rustoleum. The macco paint jobs that are bad (some are ok) are mostly bad because the car was not prepped properly/at all. Rustoleum will work, expect to remove it all when you have it repainted in a few years.
I painted this bus with Rustoleum once rolled-on and once sprayed on. I would spray it if doing it again but the trick when using spray can rustoleum is to get semi gloss. Unless you want to put a ton on and wetsand for weeks. It's hard to get gloss spray paint to lay down evenly.
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4 years later and the thread is back to life lol!
my bus needs a paint job on the cheapz. from what I hear, cheap car paint will look bad after a couple years and possibly crack or chip. ive seen some maaco paint jobs go really bad after just a year. im spending $400 on new window weatherstripping since mine are done-zo! that being said I definetley want to choose the cheapest paint thatll last me 3-5 without chipping or cracking...
I will get a real professional expensive paint job done right in 3-5years when I graduate college, I am thinking rustoleum because it looks like it holds its color for years. anyone have pics of their rustoleum Vw's?? or even better photo updates of some of the buses posted years ago in this same thread??? looking for advice and photos from people who have done this to their buses
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I saw an article from a guy who did his corvair with rustoleum
And he used a foam roller to apply it, he talked about alot of cutting paste
After and wax but man it looked factory |
Once done right, I belive it does look closer to old paint "factory" the way it used to be. New paints dont look the same as the old stuff.
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I saw an article from a guy who did his corvair with rustoleum
And he used a foam roller to apply it, he talked about alot of cutting paste
After and wax but man it looked factory
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| For all of you interested in Rustoleum/Tremclad/Brightside roll or spray on techniques, here is a site where no one will tell you how wrong you are to try this method of painting.www.rolledon.forummotion.com |
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