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flyboyaviator Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2009 Posts: 154 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: 91 westy pipe replacement |
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I'm replacing the pipe from the block to the hose under the big pulley to the water pump, can some one tell me the size and length of the rubber hose.
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fraggle00 Samba Member

Joined: October 19, 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Bristow, VA
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Great method to get things apart. What's the best way to get things back together?
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Yup, you can work right thru the cylinder spigots.
In fact, when I'm tearing an engine down, I avoid the difficult task of getting the wrist pin clips and pins out thru the access holes by just removing the rod nuts by reaching in thru the spigot with a long wobble extension. Then it's easy to remove the pistons from the rods out on the bench. You want to have a strong magnet picker-upper tool to reach in and retrieve parts you drop inside, which you will undoubtedly do. Keep count of all the rod nuts, make sure you have eight when you're done.
I would not recommend doing it this way with an engine in the car, only on the bench or an engine stand. |
_________________ '91 Vanagon Carat
'87 Porsche 928S4 DOWN
'12 Fiat 500 Abarth |
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fraggle00 Samba Member

Joined: October 19, 2011 Posts: 356 Location: Bristow, VA
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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BIG THANKS for this old thread. I'm going in soon, I've got a great milkshake in the sump. _________________ '91 Vanagon Carat
'87 Porsche 928S4 DOWN
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HoustonPhotog Samba Member

Joined: February 20, 2013 Posts: 1526 Location: Houston, TX
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mlbdriver Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2013 Posts: 63 Location: Outer Banks
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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SteelB12 wrote: |
This is a great, informative thread. I bought the engine gasket kit from Van Cafe, but am only planning on doing the head gaskets. Not wanting to go as deep as the OP did. Looks like I will have to try doing it with the engine in as I don't have a lift. Will probably hate it  |
Im leaking coolant on my passenger side head gasket. This thread is great thanks. Not to confident on doing this job though. Anyone have any idead how much it would cost at a shop? thanks |
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SteelB12 Samba Member

Joined: December 21, 2010 Posts: 591 Location: Central Virginia
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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This is a great, informative thread. I bought the engine gasket kit from Van Cafe, but am only planning on doing the head gaskets. Not wanting to go as deep as the OP did. Looks like I will have to try doing it with the engine in as I don't have a lift. Will probably hate it  _________________ 1987 Westy |
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mrlimbo Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Adams, MA
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morymob wrote: |
Yuk, never seen anything close to that ugly mess, has it's life been parked on the beach? Looks like the head is pulled off the cyls right?? all of ex loose?? flat guards under head off? Check pushrod tubes, they can get really stuck and bellows sect will streatch about this amt and hold head. |
I pull the covers off so I can drain the coolant out of the head/cylinder jackets. I pulled the push rod tubes off too. Usually I don't have to, but after an hour, I figured maybe they were glued on but good. Don't know why this side was so gunky. The other side was pretty clean when I did it last year. This side was supposed to have redone about 60K miles ago. _________________ -Jim DiGennaro, Samba lurker, Disc Jockey and LiMBO freak www.LiMBObus.org
'67 Kombi- April, its not original and I don't care.
'87 Vanagon GL (daily driver)
'01 Jetta Honey's car
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morymob Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 4683 Location: east-tn
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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Yuk, never seen anything close to that ugly mess, has it's life been parked on the beach? Looks like the head is pulled off the cyls right?? all of ex loose?? flat guards under head off? Check pushrod tubes, they can get really stuck and bellows sect will streatch about this amt and hold head. |
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mrlimbo Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Adams, MA
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I started replacing the left side of my engine last night.. This one is kicking my ass right now. The head stud holes are so full of corrosion that I can't get the head off.. spent two hours last night just struggling with the head to get it this far.
_________________ -Jim DiGennaro, Samba lurker, Disc Jockey and LiMBO freak www.LiMBObus.org
'67 Kombi- April, its not original and I don't care.
'87 Vanagon GL (daily driver)
'01 Jetta Honey's car
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morymob Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 4683 Location: east-tn
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Before removing heads rotate crank so pistons are 1/2 way down the cyls,gives u more wiggle room if a stuck head needs assistance to unstick and not end up with oil ring or more pulled out bottom of cyl. U will see tabs opposite sides on cyls usable to pry a stuck head loose. Inspect area where cyl seats to head, any dark/black areas will mean start of a compression leak. Always replace the sealing rings here, should be in kit. Iuse an old cyl and with a bit of 'fine' valve grind compound spin the cyl by hand to clean up the sealing area of each cyl, u want all the sealing u can get here.My 2-cts. |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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mrlimbo wrote: |
88formula wrote: |
im doing head gaskets soon and have been reading up. does the water pump HAVE to come off? im getting a victor reienze head gasket set (x2) does it come with the inner cylinder o rings, and do you have to change them if not disturbed?
im leaking at the coolant jacket, and my budget wassnt prepared to do this soo soon... |
You can do the job in the van. Short answer to the water pump...No. ID went in a lot deeper and did an upper end rebuild. You can just pull the heads and replace the gaskets. You shouldn't need to remove the cylinders unless you notice an issue with them or the piston.
The gasketkit DOES come with the lower cylinder seals. NO, you do not have to replace them. I've done a dozen or so headgasket jobs over 20 years and have never replaced them (jinx, knock on wood) In fact I'm doing the left head on my daily drive 87 starting tonight. (did the right last winter, they always seem to fail in the winter) So long as you don't pull the cylinders out too far-past the oil rings is too far. You will be fine. This was confirmed by boston Bob some 20 years ago. |
jim-deejay.
do you have a procedure for replacing the head gaskets in the van? |
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syncrodan Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2010 Posts: 131 Location: georgia
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ive done a ton of them without replacing the black orings between the cylinder and the crankcase as well. I've done several on customer cars without removing the water pump, despite my warnings of "hey, while we're at it..."
One bit of advice I'd like to add is this. Do you ever hear lifters tapping? It'd be a shame to replace the head gaskets only to have the lifters give you trouble right after and have to remove the heads again. It's happened to me before, swapped the heads out, adjust the lifters, and have one or two that won't pump up for whatever reason. The only way to replace a bad lifter is to use a spring loaded push rod tube and I think they're expensive. |
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mrlimbo Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 289 Location: Adams, MA
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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88formula wrote: |
im doing head gaskets soon and have been reading up. does the water pump HAVE to come off? im getting a victor reienze head gasket set (x2) does it come with the inner cylinder o rings, and do you have to change them if not disturbed?
im leaking at the coolant jacket, and my budget wassnt prepared to do this soo soon... |
You can do the job in the van. Short answer to the water pump...No. ID went in a lot deeper and did an upper end rebuild. You can just pull the heads and replace the gaskets. You shouldn't need to remove the cylinders unless you notice an issue with them or the piston.
The gasketkit DOES come with the lower cylinder seals. NO, you do not have to replace them. I've done a dozen or so headgasket jobs over 20 years and have never replaced them (jinx, knock on wood) In fact I'm doing the left head on my daily drive 87 starting tonight. (did the right last winter, they always seem to fail in the winter) So long as you don't pull the cylinders out too far-past the oil rings is too far. You will be fine. This was confirmed by boston Bob some 20 years ago. _________________ -Jim DiGennaro, Samba lurker, Disc Jockey and LiMBO freak www.LiMBObus.org
'67 Kombi- April, its not original and I don't care.
'87 Vanagon GL (daily driver)
'01 Jetta Honey's car
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beachinwesty Samba Member
Joined: March 10, 2011 Posts: 87 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Just recently did the heads on my 85 1.9l. I assume that you are doing this with the engine in the van? Otherwise you wouldn't ask the question I don't think. Best thing to do is remove the engine and work on it properly. Trust me on this. I did it with the engine in but I feel like it was a minor miracle that it all worked out. If you're keeping it in the van, then you can get the heads off without removing the water pump, but it's getting the heads back on that poses the problem.
There is a small hose between the driver's side head and the thermostat housing that can't be attached unless you remove the thermo housing, which requires you to remove the water pump. My experience was that there's no way to avoid removing the waterpump when you are reassembling everything.
Hope that helps.
Beachinwesty
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88formula Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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im doing head gaskets soon and have been reading up. does the water pump HAVE to come off? im getting a victor reienze head gasket set (x2) does it come with the inner cylinder o rings, and do you have to change them if not disturbed?
im leaking at the coolant jacket, and my budget wassnt prepared to do this soo soon... |
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outwesty Samba Member

Joined: June 06, 2006 Posts: 1078 Location: Northern Sierras
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: How Much end play is ok ? |
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sanchius  Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1566 Location: IN
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: 12mm or 10mm flywheel main seal? (attn: tencentlife) |
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tencentlife Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:22 am Post subject: |
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id, did you get your backfiring and cooling issues straightened out? _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
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id Samba Member

Joined: February 16, 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Stephan,
The Tstat housing was included in my head order from Boston Bob. Waterbox gasket sealant (the black stuff) came with the gasket package along with the yellow thread sealant.
The other sealants, Gascacinch etc..., came from various FLAPS around town. _________________ 'Green Dragon' 1986 Westy GL |
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stephanhipwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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hi i have a 2.1 that i am building up for my bug, could you tell me where you got your stat housing and sealants from?
thanks
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