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mikeandkirsti
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 Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| Has anyone ordered Gerson Split rears and how are they? |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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id say any thing over $500 would have to be damn near perfect...
id pay about 1K for a set if they match exactley |
I think everyone is low - I sold one used front fender + freight for $650, here on thesamba, about 4 years ago - my 2/55 came with 2 near perfect round horn grill split front fenders, on it and I turned down an offer of $1200 - BTW the car came with oval shaped horn grills, but some innovative soul made these split fenders look like later ones -
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Suboval
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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Dirk has posted that the differences between the left and right fender were done on purpose.
His are NOT symmetrical.
Double click the picture below to read associated text.
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Nirvana09
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
The ad title says "Split and Oval rear fenders Price: 395.00 EACH" |
It didn't at the time. He might have seen this thread.
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peter schepens
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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I do not think Dr D changed his molds or production process..
On his Face book page you can find lot's of picts from lucky customers. Guess the 47 was unlucky. I seen the work on it on the 47 on the forum here. Great skills. https://www.facebook.com/dirk.hortig.10?fref=searc...KOQwwq66gt
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| peter schepens wrote: |
| splitjunkie wrote: |
| 56reddy wrote: |
| Nirvana09 wrote: |
| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
Another possibility is to buy Dr. Dirks split and early oval rear fenders, but they are $1100 each plus shipping from Germany, so might need to sell a testicle, an eye, and a piece of your liver as well as that kidney.....LOL |
You must not have seen the Wrenn Metalworks thread on the '47 they were doing. The new German split rear fenders are terrible in my opinion. They hang down too low where they meet the apron and are totally different shape between the two sides.
$395 a piece for a new fender that required building all new tooling is a very fair price. Expensive but not overpriced if they fit well and don't have any major issues. |
It seems that only on the 47 the fenders are not fitting. On all other cars the fenders went on, they are spot on. The picts and cars I have seen with them are just as correct as can be. Maybe the 47 was a bit different in the build from the factory.
Meanwhile BBT is close to start the production on split and oval front fenders . Insane tooling is needed
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I would love to see some of those pictures. The Wrenn '47 is heavily reconstructed and when he first showed the new fenders mounted up I made the comment that perhaps something was wrong with the work that they had done. He then bolted up a couple of later genuine VW fenders and they fit perfectly. He clearly documented that there were holes in the wrong place and the angle of the bend at the top of the apron and quarter was not a good fit. Maybe they have made some improvements since he posted his pictures.
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peter schepens
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| splitjunkie wrote: |
| 56reddy wrote: |
| Nirvana09 wrote: |
| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
Another possibility is to buy Dr. Dirks split and early oval rear fenders, but they are $1100 each plus shipping from Germany, so might need to sell a testicle, an eye, and a piece of your liver as well as that kidney.....LOL |
You must not have seen the Wrenn Metalworks thread on the '47 they were doing. The new German split rear fenders are terrible in my opinion. They hang down too low where they meet the apron and are totally different shape between the two sides.
$395 a piece for a new fender that required building all new tooling is a very fair price. Expensive but not overpriced if they fit well and don't have any major issues. |
It seems that only on the 47 the fenders are not fitting. On all other cars the fenders went on, they are spot on. The picts and cars I have seen with them are just as correct as can be. Maybe the 47 was a bit different in the build from the factory.
Meanwhile BBT is close to start the production on split and oval front fenders . Insane tooling is needed
Greetings Peter
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| Nirvana09 wrote: |
| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
The ad title says "Split and Oval rear fenders Price: 395.00 EACH"
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| Nirvana09 wrote: |
| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
$395 each fender, still not a bad price since Chinese repro's are $220 each and they don't have any of the original details or the split tail light dimple. Better get that Kidney on eBay ASAP if you need quality rear fenders. Another possibility is to buy Dr. Dirks split and early oval rear fenders, but they are $1100 each plus shipping from Germany, so might need to sell a testicle, an eye, and a piece of your liver as well as that kidney.....LOL |
You must not have seen the Wrenn Metalworks thread on the '47 they were doing. The new German split rear fenders are terrible in my opinion. They hang down too low where they meet the apron and are totally different shape between the two sides.
$395 a piece for a new fender that required building all new tooling is a very fair price. Expensive but not overpriced if they fit well and don't have any major issues.
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tisius
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| Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| I agree if they are good quality and properly shaped for $395 each, that isn't bad. They might not be original but you can pay way more than that to have a body shop fix a 70 year old bent up, rusted and torn old one into something usable and good originals are getting very scarce and very expensive. |
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my56samba
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| I agree if they are good quality and properly shaped for $395 each, that isn't bad. They might not be original but you can pay way more than that to have a body shop fix a 70 year old bent up, rusted and torn old one into something usable and good originals are getting very scarce and very expensive. |
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56reddy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| Nirvana09 wrote: |
| The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney. |
$395 each fender, still not a bad price since Chinese repro's are $220 each and they don't have any of the original details or the split tail light dimple. Better get that Kidney on eBay ASAP if you need quality rear fenders. Another possibility is to buy Dr. Dirks split and early oval rear fenders, but they are $1100 each plus shipping from Germany, so might need to sell a testicle, an eye, and a piece of your liver as well as that kidney.....LOL
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Nirvana09
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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The add says "fenders', is that plural - as in the pair? $395 for the pair really isn't bad at all. If it's each - man, that is a shot in the gut. I need to sell another kidney.
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56reddy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| How does a heart tail light mount on that recessed hole? My current tail lights which were NOS when purchased fit flush on my current fenders and fit correctly? Would be interested in purchasing if the tail lights would fit. |
They make fenders without the indentation. Those are for heart tail lights. Look at the 4th picture in the ad.
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mstra
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| Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| How does a heart tail light mount on that recessed hole? My current tail lights which were NOS when purchased fit flush on my current fenders and fit correctly? Would be interested in purchasing if the tail lights would fit. |
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56reddy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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well not an expert at this but, if he cant get the tail light holes right leaves much to thing about the rest of the fender shape and fit. ie the holes are not in a row and the large wire hole is on the bottom.  |
Not sure where the above picture came from, but if you look at his ad the holes are correct.
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52 split
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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| well not an expert at this but, if he cant get the tail light holes right leaves much to thing about the rest of the fender shape and fit. ie the holes are not in a row and the large wire hole is on the bottom. |
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66brm
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| Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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Damn. Time to sell a kidney.
Seriously, not a bad price at all. |
Considering the cost of working far gone originals it's not bad, but if you can get original metal for these early bugs then why not. All depends on the individuals situation.
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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Damn. Time to sell a kidney.
Seriously, not a bad price at all.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Reproduction Split Fenders |
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I'm surprised no one is mentioning Gerson's new split and oval rear fenders yet :
Split and Oval rear fenders Price: $395.00
"Here are our Split and Oval rear fenders..these are correct in every way..stamped cold rolled 20gauge steel, nice and heavy, no skimping on metal thickness like the other manufacturers, call us or email us, we will get these out to ya ASAP!!!
email us at [email protected] [email protected] or call us at 561-747-4800"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2325273
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