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zeohsix Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: |
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dkonzy wrote: |
Awesome thanks! Bulbs already in there...
Having trouble locating the existing brown wires and plug...where does it split off? I want to be able to trace it from somewhere.... |
If you are talking about the connector at the rear of the Van by the transaxel, it is tye wrapped somewhere by the rear shock asorber, there is a small wiring harness that is Syncro only running from front to back of your Van, the connector is on that small harness. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Having trouble understanding your question.
The wiring from the decoupler and lockers are all wired into the white plug that plugs into the simple circuit board behind the locker panel. The brown wire is just ground. Your van is a factory rear locker equipped van?
The picture above shows the plug just above the person's thumb. |
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dkonzy Samba Member

Joined: October 24, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: Kirkland
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome thanks! Bulbs already in there...
Having trouble locating the existing brown wires and plug...where does it split off? I want to be able to trace it from somewhere.... _________________ 1987 Syncro |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Put a bulb into the middle position of the locker panel. The wiring is already there from the decoupler to the locker panel from the factory on locker equipped vans. |
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dkonzy Samba Member

Joined: October 24, 2012 Posts: 142 Location: Kirkland
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:47 pm Post subject: Wiring |
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I just installed a decoupler and found the engage/disengage sensor connector on the decoupler itself...where do I plug the other end into on my dash so that the middle green indicator light will work and I finally can say i've got 2/3rds of the green lights I want on my dash? _________________ 1987 Syncro |
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CaptTurbo Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2012 Posts: 93 Location: SW Florida
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pleased to run across this thread. I've recently revived my '87 Syncro after a number of years because of vexing grounding issues caused her to be parked. My rear locker is not working and I suppose it isn't too surprising since they should be actuated once in a while to keep their function. |
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AIR_COOLED_EXPRESS Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2007 Posts: 33 Location: MIDWEST
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
That connector is for the flashing unit for the front lockers. If you don't have front lockers and the flashing unit it is a non-issue. |
Thanks very much for the clarification. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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That connector is for the flashing unit for the front lockers. If you don't have front lockers and the flashing unit it is a non-issue. |
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AIR_COOLED_EXPRESS Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2007 Posts: 33 Location: MIDWEST
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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sunshine_norway wrote: |
I hope this picture can help you solve your problem...
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I wonder if anybody can tell me what the 3 pin connector in the upper left hand corner of this picture is for. I am putting a Syncro dash back together and have this plug and 2 ground wires hanging without any place to hook them up to.
Thanks!
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dave, even if a restrictor were inline, it would't reduce the peak head of vacuum available in the system at rest, which when applied will quickly equalise to the same head once the air is displaced due to servo movement. More simply, it's all under the same negative head most of the time, and that is equal to peak manifold vacuum.
It only takes ~1 lb. of pressure to work a locker rod, but the servos can exert ~30 lb. of direct pressure.
I also tapped into the brake booster line and use the booster as the reservoir. Doesn't alter brake efficacy nor locker operation. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
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davevickery Samba Member
Joined: July 16, 2005 Posts: 2887 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I now have my locker installed (on my 2wd van) and I tapped into the brake booster line upfront under the removable panel. My question is, did the stock setup tap into the same line, and was there a pressure reducer somewhere in the system? I can't find anything in the Bentley. Mine works fine, but it seems like there is a lot of vacuum on that line and I am wondering if that is the same amount of vacuum the stock system would normally see. I am not using the cannister, just tapping straight into the brake booster under the dash. It hisses when I switch on/off and locks/unlocks very quickly compared to my previous syncro which always worked well. I just want to make sure I am not putting too much pressure to the system as it is constantly under vacuum and judging by my previous stock syncro it doesn't seem to need much vacuum to activate the locker .
If anyone knows I would appreciate a reply or if it is covered in the Bentley and you know where, I can look it up. Thanks very much,
Dave
syncrodoka wrote: |
GWTWTLW mine isn't stock but you get the idea.
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Exploded view
The vertical fork on the right is attached to the other side of the pin that will not allow it to twist.
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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IdahoDoug wrote: |
Any thoughts on twisting? I see the shaft from the actuator is offcenter, so that should be a limiter to only a few degrees before I risk that, but wondering about the other end in the tranny. Parts diag seems to indicate it would be OK. Now thinking of twist to loosen, no longer to get roll pin out as I handled it with something highly technical.
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No fancy twisting, in and out only.  |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10355 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent! Enough to grab onto. Soaking in PB a few hours now. Any thoughts on twisting? I see the shaft from the actuator is offcenter, so that should be a limiter to only a few degrees before I risk that, but wondering about the other end in the tranny. Parts diag seems to indicate it would be OK. Now thinking of twist to loosen, no longer to get roll pin out as I handled it with something highly technical. I ........ um ........pushed the shifter into another gear and it was totally out of the way. cough.....
DougM _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12304 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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The full stroke of the actuator is 20mm. |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10355 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Syncrodoka,
Nice shot. The T is 9 1/2" forward of the major frame crossmember on the right side outboard of the longitudinal frame on the brake vacuum line.
So, I've tapped the roll pin partly out of the locker actuator rod. I have two spare. Before knocking that pin out and committing, I want to try to grab the actuator rod and see if it will loosen up first. Can anyone tell me approximately how far the actuator rod moves? That will help me not bugger up the part of the rod that goes in and out if my cloth slips. Thanks.
DougM _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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GWTWTLW mine isn't stock but you get the idea.
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IdahoDoug Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10355 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Heh - I got your endless loop!! I'll be under the van in about 20 minutes and will describe that spot Frankensuby's mentioned. Do you have a vacuum reservoir under there now? _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1993 Toyota LandCruiser, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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FrankenSubySyncro Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 638 Location: Vancouver, WA.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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GWTWTLW wrote: |
Arrrg! You've put me in an endless loop!
I'm wondering where in the vacuum system you tap into to fill up the reservoir. In the diagram, it is the line going out of the reservoir and ending.
Thx! |
Pete the vacuum line tees off of the brake booster line that runs from front to back underneath on the drivers side frame rail. I have an extra vacuum reservoir and check valve. The tee for the brake booster line can be found at most auto parts stores, I forget the size right now.
I am still willing to help you with this, I have been busy and was thinking you maybe able to wait until it warms up. PM me and we can talk about it more. We will need to change the gear oil too so I would start looking for swepco 210. _________________ Syncronize it!
1987 Franken Syncro (converted 2WD auto)
2004 2.5 SOHC Subaru
F & R lockers, decoupler, SS, 6.17 R&P
Trans Cooler
EMPI race prepped 930 CVs and axles
Bilstein coilover front, rear ProComp MX-6066R shocks, 14" hypercoil springs
30x9.5 15" BFG Muds
Custom skid plates
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GWTWTLW Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Arrrg! You've put me in an endless loop!
I'm wondering where in the vacuum system you tap into to fill up the reservoir. In the diagram, it is the line going out of the reservoir and ending.
Thx! _________________ 89 Syncro Westy - GW 2.5, now with a double knob job
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