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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dkonzy wrote:
Awesome thanks! Bulbs already in there...

Having trouble locating the existing brown wires and plug...where does it split off? I want to be able to trace it from somewhere....


If you are talking about the connector at the rear of the Van by the transaxel, it is tye wrapped somewhere by the rear shock asorber, there is a small wiring harness that is Syncro only running from front to back of your Van, the connector is on that small harness.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having trouble understanding your question.
The wiring from the decoupler and lockers are all wired into the white plug that plugs into the simple circuit board behind the locker panel. The brown wire is just ground. Your van is a factory rear locker equipped van?
The picture above shows the plug just above the person's thumb.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome thanks! Bulbs already in there...

Having trouble locating the existing brown wires and plug...where does it split off? I want to be able to trace it from somewhere....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a bulb into the middle position of the locker panel. The wiring is already there from the decoupler to the locker panel from the factory on locker equipped vans.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Wiring Reply with quote

I just installed a decoupler and found the engage/disengage sensor connector on the decoupler itself...where do I plug the other end into on my dash so that the middle green indicator light will work and I finally can say i've got 2/3rds of the green lights I want on my dash?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pleased to run across this thread. I've recently revived my '87 Syncro after a number of years because of vexing grounding issues caused her to be parked. My rear locker is not working and I suppose it isn't too surprising since they should be actuated once in a while to keep their function.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
That connector is for the flashing unit for the front lockers. If you don't have front lockers and the flashing unit it is a non-issue.


Thanks very much for the clarification.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That connector is for the flashing unit for the front lockers. If you don't have front lockers and the flashing unit it is a non-issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope this picture can help you solve your problem... Smile

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I wonder if anybody can tell me what the 3 pin connector in the upper left hand corner of this picture is for. I am putting a Syncro dash back together and have this plug and 2 ground wires hanging without any place to hook them up to.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, even if a restrictor were inline, it would't reduce the peak head of vacuum available in the system at rest, which when applied will quickly equalise to the same head once the air is displaced due to servo movement. More simply, it's all under the same negative head most of the time, and that is equal to peak manifold vacuum.

It only takes ~1 lb. of pressure to work a locker rod, but the servos can exert ~30 lb. of direct pressure.

I also tapped into the brake booster line and use the booster as the reservoir. Doesn't alter brake efficacy nor locker operation.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I now have my locker installed (on my 2wd van) and I tapped into the brake booster line upfront under the removable panel. My question is, did the stock setup tap into the same line, and was there a pressure reducer somewhere in the system? I can't find anything in the Bentley. Mine works fine, but it seems like there is a lot of vacuum on that line and I am wondering if that is the same amount of vacuum the stock system would normally see. I am not using the cannister, just tapping straight into the brake booster under the dash. It hisses when I switch on/off and locks/unlocks very quickly compared to my previous syncro which always worked well. I just want to make sure I am not putting too much pressure to the system as it is constantly under vacuum and judging by my previous stock syncro it doesn't seem to need much vacuum to activate the locker .

If anyone knows I would appreciate a reply or if it is covered in the Bentley and you know where, I can look it up. Thanks very much,
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GWTWTLW mine isn't stock but you get the idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The vertical fork on the right is attached to the other side of the pin that will not allow it to twist.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
Any thoughts on twisting? I see the shaft from the actuator is offcenter, so that should be a limiter to only a few degrees before I risk that, but wondering about the other end in the tranny. Parts diag seems to indicate it would be OK. Now thinking of twist to loosen, no longer to get roll pin out as I handled it with something highly technical.

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No fancy twisting, in and out only. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Enough to grab onto. Soaking in PB a few hours now. Any thoughts on twisting? I see the shaft from the actuator is offcenter, so that should be a limiter to only a few degrees before I risk that, but wondering about the other end in the tranny. Parts diag seems to indicate it would be OK. Now thinking of twist to loosen, no longer to get roll pin out as I handled it with something highly technical. I ........ um ........pushed the shifter into another gear and it was totally out of the way. cough.....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The full stroke of the actuator is 20mm.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syncrodoka,

Nice shot. The T is 9 1/2" forward of the major frame crossmember on the right side outboard of the longitudinal frame on the brake vacuum line.

So, I've tapped the roll pin partly out of the locker actuator rod. I have two spare. Before knocking that pin out and committing, I want to try to grab the actuator rod and see if it will loosen up first. Can anyone tell me approximately how far the actuator rod moves? That will help me not bugger up the part of the rod that goes in and out if my cloth slips. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWTWTLW mine isn't stock but you get the idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh - I got your endless loop!! I'll be under the van in about 20 minutes and will describe that spot Frankensuby's mentioned. Do you have a vacuum reservoir under there now?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWTWTLW wrote:
IdahoDoug wrote:
gw,

Here's a great thread/diagram for you:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319128&highlight=actuator+diff+lock


Arrrg! You've put me in an endless loop!

I'm wondering where in the vacuum system you tap into to fill up the reservoir. In the diagram, it is the line going out of the reservoir and ending.

Thx!


Pete the vacuum line tees off of the brake booster line that runs from front to back underneath on the drivers side frame rail. I have an extra vacuum reservoir and check valve. The tee for the brake booster line can be found at most auto parts stores, I forget the size right now.

I am still willing to help you with this, I have been busy and was thinking you maybe able to wait until it warms up. PM me and we can talk about it more. We will need to change the gear oil too so I would start looking for swepco 210.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
gw,

Here's a great thread/diagram for you:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=319128&highlight=actuator+diff+lock


Arrrg! You've put me in an endless loop!

I'm wondering where in the vacuum system you tap into to fill up the reservoir. In the diagram, it is the line going out of the reservoir and ending.

Thx!
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